Comparison of OpenStep & WindowMaker?

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by kmself

2/22/03 12:13:13 PM

Comparison of OpenStep & WindowMaker?

How close is WindowMaker to being a NeXTStep / OpenStep\r\nimplementation? I'm mostly a fan of the clean UI, but understand that\r\nNeXTStep offered other featurwes, most of which have never been clearly\r\narticulated to me.

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Windows Linux and Mac OS X - a new hallelujia !!! - (dmarker) - (122) - Dec. 22, 2002, 07:59:47 AM EST

Re: Windows Linux and Mac OS X - a new hallelujia !!! - (tjsinclair) - (8) - Dec. 22, 2002, 09:53:59 AM EST

Re: Windows Linux and Mac OS X - a new hallelujia !!! - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 22, 2002, 12:27:19 PM EST

Regarding the mouse - (tjsinclair) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2002, 05:19:04 PM EST

Re: Regarding the mouse - (deSitter) - Dec. 22, 2002, 06:37:39 PM EST

Linux kernel - (rickmoen) - (4) - Dec. 22, 2002, 11:48:09 PM EST

The presumption is... - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2002, 12:26:24 PM EST

Re: The presumption is... - (rickmoen) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2002, 02:49:12 PM EST

Having the option is valuable, even if not exercised - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 23, 2002, 05:20:10 PM EST

Nah - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 24, 2002, 09:13:03 AM EST

MacOS X is NeXTStep (and they can keep it, thanks) - (rickmoen) - (110) - Dec. 22, 2002, 11:58:25 PM EST

I guess this is what we get - (tjsinclair) - (81) - Dec. 22, 2002, 11:49:38 PM EST

Well, no, it's not a Linux thing at all - (rickmoen) - (80) - Dec. 22, 2002, 11:55:38 PM EST

Re: Well, no, it's not a Linux thing at all - (dmarker) - (78) - Dec. 23, 2002, 01:09:54 AM EST

Workplace OS rocked - (rickmoen) - (77) - Dec. 23, 2002, 02:28:17 AM EST

good criticism, but only half right (re. filesystems) - (cwbrenn) - (8) - Dec. 23, 2002, 10:57:59 AM EST

On FAT vs HPFS - (Another Scott) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2002, 11:11:45 AM EST

Re: On FAT vs HPFS - (rickmoen) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2002, 02:45:45 PM EST

Re: On FAT vs HPFS - (deSitter) - (4) - Dec. 25, 2002, 06:55:44 AM EST

Re: On FAT vs HPFS - (Steve Lowe) - (3) - Dec. 25, 2002, 11:20:32 PM EST

Re: On FAT vs HPFS - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 26, 2002, 12:02:03 PM EST

3 copies now on eBay. IBM has it too for $180. -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 26, 2002, 01:01:04 PM EST

consider picking up eCS - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 3, 2003, 01:54:53 AM EST

Er, I did say two volumes... - (rickmoen) - Dec. 23, 2002, 02:32:37 PM EST

Partial agreement here - (tjsinclair) - (67) - Dec. 23, 2002, 12:52:09 PM EST

Thanks for that - (rickmoen) - (4) - Dec. 24, 2002, 01:26:36 AM EST

Very True (TANGENT) - (cwbrenn) - (3) - Dec. 24, 2002, 07:59:39 AM EST

Proprietary forks and threat models - (rickmoen) - (2) - Dec. 24, 2002, 01:53:08 PM EST

Dystopian Vision - (cwbrenn) - (1) - Dec. 26, 2002, 07:01:53 AM EST

Re: Dystopian Vision - (rickmoen) - Dec. 26, 2002, 04:34:53 PM EST

Accident waiting to happen - (tuberculosis) - (61) - Dec. 24, 2002, 07:15:12 PM EST

You found a way to break your files? Sorry to hear. - (rickmoen) - (60) - Dec. 24, 2002, 11:03:53 PM EST

You're wrong again as usual - stick to Linux -NT - (tuberculosis) - (59) - Dec. 25, 2002, 05:29:55 AM EST

Verily, the technopeasant priesthood has spoken - (rickmoen) - (58) - Dec. 25, 2002, 07:05:12 AM EST

You don't actually *use* the system, do you. - (tuberculosis) - (57) - Dec. 25, 2002, 09:10:39 AM EST

Unix file basics - (rickmoen) - (56) - Dec. 25, 2002, 03:34:31 PM EST

HFS File basics - (tuberculosis) - (42) - Dec. 25, 2002, 05:48:00 PM EST

Envoi - (rickmoen) - (41) - Dec. 26, 2002, 01:00:34 AM EST

You could run the correct test - (ben_tilly) - (40) - Dec. 26, 2002, 03:04:16 AM EST

This would be my cue to ask this: (new thread) - (static) - Dec. 26, 2002, 03:54:27 AM EST

Exactly - thanks -NT - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 26, 2002, 05:45:35 AM EST

I am understanding unix&tar has different capabilities? - (boxley) - (34) - Dec. 26, 2002, 12:24:36 PM EST

Not sure what you are asking - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 26, 2002, 04:40:42 PM EST

No - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 27, 2002, 07:39:16 AM EST

my point was Nix tools do not understand all file systems - (boxley) - Dec. 27, 2002, 10:32:17 AM EST

You understand wrong - (kmself) - (30) - Dec. 27, 2002, 11:39:27 AM EST

well lets try it out - (boxley) - (9) - Dec. 27, 2002, 01:03:47 PM EST

You know dam well... - (folkert) - (4) - Dec. 27, 2002, 01:37:05 PM EST

point==missed - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 27, 2002, 03:53:29 PM EST

Windows, MAC OSX, MacOS9.x, *NIX - (folkert) - (2) - Dec. 27, 2002, 04:03:58 PM EST

ed zachery -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 27, 2002, 06:56:50 PM EST

Windows has the bigger problem... - (ChrisR) - Dec. 27, 2002, 07:46:43 PM EST

Wrong - (kmself) - (3) - Dec. 27, 2002, 07:05:36 PM EST

The reason I brought this upo was recovering files from a - (boxley) - (2) - Dec. 27, 2002, 08:09:51 PM EST

Two possible issues I can think of... - (kmself) - (1) - Dec. 27, 2002, 10:15:59 PM EST

It was over a year ago so bear with me - (boxley) - Dec. 27, 2002, 10:43:35 PM EST

Once again, Todd's explanation - (ben_tilly) - (19) - Dec. 28, 2002, 05:02:03 PM EST

Using a hammer to drive screws will hurt - (rickmoen) - (18) - Dec. 28, 2002, 08:05:12 PM EST

I understand your position perfectly - (ben_tilly) - (10) - Dec. 29, 2002, 05:23:15 PM EST

Re: I understand your position perfectly - (rickmoen) - (9) - Dec. 29, 2002, 07:17:38 PM EST

If it is not a straw man... - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Dec. 30, 2002, 06:16:31 PM EST

Re: If it is not a straw man... - (rickmoen) - (7) - Dec. 31, 2002, 10:14:16 PM EST

Funny, I concluded the same as Ben - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Jan. 2, 2003, 04:55:17 AM EST

Re: Funny, I concluded the same as Ben - (rickmoen) - (5) - Jan. 2, 2003, 05:31:20 AM EST

Little story - you might find it entertaining - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 3, 2003, 04:27:19 AM EST

Excellent story. Going on the wall. -NT - (admin) - Jan. 3, 2003, 10:21:21 AM EST

This my dear friend... (new thread) - (folkert) - Jan. 3, 2003, 11:59:25 AM EST

Since you seem to be missing the point... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Jan. 4, 2003, 12:43:54 PM EST

Re: Since you seem to be missing the point... - (rickmoen) - Jan. 16, 2003, 04:13:56 AM EST

I do not think that word means what you think it means. - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Dec. 30, 2002, 07:52:16 AM EST

Hello, you must be going. - (rickmoen) - (5) - Dec. 30, 2002, 08:21:08 AM EST

This is obvious? - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Dec. 30, 2002, 03:47:08 PM EST

Re: This is obvious? - (rickmoen) - (3) - Dec. 31, 2002, 10:20:55 PM EST

At no time did you utter the word "obvious" - nice dodge - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 1, 2003, 03:14:02 PM EST

Re: At no time did you utter the word "obvious" - nice dodge - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 1, 2003, 05:34:29 PM EST

Topic at hand - point out what you claim is "obvious" (new thread) - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 2, 2003, 05:02:05 AM EST

Basic point seems to have been missed - (rickmoen) - (2) - Dec. 26, 2002, 04:13:21 PM EST

Yes you have missed it - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 26, 2002, 04:33:37 PM EST

I see so to use OSX effectively - (boxley) - Dec. 26, 2002, 04:48:39 PM EST

Never used Apple OSes in my life, - (Arkadiy) - (12) - Dec. 30, 2002, 03:10:18 PM EST

Re: Never used Apple OSes in my life, - (rickmoen) - (11) - Dec. 31, 2002, 10:24:41 PM EST

For certain kind of user - (Arkadiy) - (10) - Jan. 1, 2003, 02:50:31 PM EST

Re: For certain kind of user - (rickmoen) - (9) - Jan. 1, 2003, 05:28:32 PM EST

Gee - got an ISBN for that manual? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 2, 2003, 05:07:06 AM EST

Re: Gee - got an ISBN for that manual? - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 2, 2003, 05:27:29 AM EST

He had no difficulty in figuring out how the system works - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 4, 2003, 12:58:00 PM EST

rm - the ultimate corruptor -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 2, 2003, 12:53:27 PM EST

ouch! R.M. - the ultimate corruptor. -NT - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 3, 2003, 11:09:42 AM EST

rm -rf / - (inthane-chan) - Jan. 4, 2003, 05:34:25 PM EST

isnt that the beauty of nix? It does what it is commanded to - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 3, 2003, 06:17:33 PM EST

Well, personally.. - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 3, 2003, 09:15:50 PM EST

yup my intro to unix - (boxley) - Jan. 3, 2003, 10:00:52 PM EST

Understood, I just meant - (tjsinclair) - Dec. 23, 2002, 12:35:20 PM EST

So where exactly IS NeXT Step in the mix? - (cwbrenn) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2002, 10:05:25 AM EST

I believe it's the Cocoa API + Objective C -NT - (tjsinclair) - Dec. 23, 2002, 12:54:44 PM EST

As I said. - (rickmoen) - Dec. 23, 2002, 03:25:34 PM EST

Its the GUI lib - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 23, 2002, 05:40:10 PM EST

Who is Apple Computer? - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Dec. 23, 2002, 05:36:30 PM EST

Pin terpsichory - (rickmoen) - Dec. 23, 2002, 08:19:06 PM EST

Legal matters, GNUStep - (rickmoen) - (6) - Dec. 24, 2002, 02:23:32 AM EST

Did you take a pendantic pill this morning or what? - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Dec. 24, 2002, 08:35:17 AM EST

Rick get his pedantic in suppository form ;-) -NT - (drewk) - (2) - Dec. 24, 2002, 09:40:57 AM EST

We have a suppository forum? - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Dec. 24, 2002, 02:06:16 PM EST

flame and politics, the suppositories post there :-) -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 24, 2002, 02:40:03 PM EST

But they're only application libraries! - (rickmoen) - (1) - Dec. 24, 2002, 02:29:42 PM EST

You're a loony. (new thread) - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 24, 2002, 03:11:43 PM EST

I thought Sun bought NextStep - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2002, 08:29:26 PM EST

You're probably thinking of NeWS - (rickmoen) - (2) - Dec. 24, 2002, 12:47:55 AM EST

Nope this is what I remembered Jobs and Sun, OpenStep - (boxley) - Dec. 24, 2002, 08:39:12 AM EST

No, he's thinking of NextStep - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 24, 2002, 09:02:07 AM EST

Re: MacOS X is NeXTStep (and they can keep it, thanks) - (karnak) - (10) - Feb. 20, 2003, 03:54:51 PM EST

Re: MacOS X is NeXTStep (and they can keep it, thanks) - (rickmoen) - (9) - Feb. 21, 2003, 04:05:54 PM EST

Nothing wrong with a 68040. - (admin) - (4) - Feb. 21, 2003, 04:15:11 PM EST

Semi-OT: Fatboy Slim still does all his work on an Atari ST -NT - (Meerkat) - (3) - Feb. 22, 2003, 04:49:01 PM EST

That's what I used originally - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 22, 2003, 06:58:43 PM EST

Do you sound as bad? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2003, 06:01:03 AM EST

Worse. - (admin) - Feb. 23, 2003, 09:46:33 AM EST

Re: MacOS X is NeXTStep (and they can keep it, thanks) - (karnak) - (3) - Feb. 21, 2003, 11:55:44 PM EST

Comparison of OpenStep & WindowMaker? - (kmself) - Feb. 22, 2003, 12:13:13 PM EST

Re: MacOS X is NeXTStep (and they can keep it, thanks) - (rickmoen) - Feb. 22, 2003, 06:35:47 PM EST

Have you considered GNUStep? - (orion) - Feb. 26, 2003, 08:44:31 PM EST

Apple and Linux - (orion) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2002, 08:01:27 AM EST

Do you ever think before you type? -NT - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 24, 2002, 09:06:02 AM EST

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