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New We need to support those watchdogs who guard our freedom
The ACLU. Yes everyone has a cause that these people have trampled on. That is because they are equal opportunity folks. They are fighting right now to safeguard our freedoms from governmental abuse at the hands of the Justice department. Help the EEF and anyone else who is struggling against the DCMCIA and the RIAA. Also being homeless and hungry is not a crime. Drop off some spare food at a shelter or food bank. If you have extra clothing dont give it to stores that make a living reselling used clothing, find a local charity that gives clothes away. Usually church based so it is dificult for some. There is a lot of things that can make America better, but mostly get involved personally. Time is a precious commodity so spending some is a great gift.
thanx,
bill
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New But how do you get involved?
Giving money to the ACLU is good, but if that's all you do then it seems more like paying someone else to fix the problem. Which isn't what you're saying, I know, but other than paying a political action committee like the ACLU or the EFF, what next?

Giving to charities can help releive people who are suffering from problems, but can it actually solve those problems? Whether it can or can't has no bearing on whether or not those charities are good things, in my opinion, but while putting a cold compress on a fevered patient can keep the patient from frying his/her own brain, you still need a way to deal with the sickness itself. So how do you deal with *that*?
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New Re: But how do you get involved?
>you still need a way to deal with the sickness itself.

Has anyone specifically identified the sickness?
Tom Sinclair

"Everybody is someone else's weirdo."
- E. Dijkstra
New Probably not.
I was assuming from Bill's post that he viewed the sickness as a loss of civil liberties and poverty.

"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New IANAL so I can only contribute
the poor will always be with us, there is no cure for poverty. I am not talking donations only, stop and have a conversation with some of these folks, might learn something. I am not advocating that this will make America better, I am advocating that giving dignity to others has a ripple effect. The $10 you give to an old man whose food stamps wont come in for 4 days might come in handy when you are old, broke and your food stamps wont come in for 4 days. Its called sympathetic magic :-)
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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New What ya said - is one good specific minimal start..
     An honest question. - (cwbrenn) - (25)
         We need to support those watchdogs who guard our freedom - (boxley) - (5)
             But how do you get involved? - (cwbrenn) - (3)
                 Re: But how do you get involved? - (tjsinclair) - (1)
                     Probably not. - (cwbrenn)
                 IANAL so I can only contribute - (boxley)
             What ya said - is one good specific minimal start.. -NT - (Ashton)
         Basically... - (folkert) - (3)
             So then... - (cwbrenn) - (2)
                 Well, not by *We the People of the world"... - (folkert) - (1)
                     But it's said that God works through human beings. - (marlowe)
         Where to start? - (Brandioch) - (2)
             Re: Where to start? - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                 See #4. :) - (Brandioch)
         An honest response - question. - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
             The reason I ask - (cwbrenn)
         Moral seriousness first. - (marlowe) - (5)
             Typical Irish, never serious :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                 Lowland Scots were descended from Irish. - (marlowe) - (2)
                     lowland scots? the folk Geordies use to wipe their arse with (new thread) - (boxley)
                     A lesson in history of wise one - Lowlanders are true Scots - (dmarker)
             Agreement.___[!!] - (Ashton)
         Some thoughts. - (Another Scott)
         Book Recommendation and Answer - (tuberculosis) - (2)
             Can only add - - (Ashton)
             On order. -NT - (Brandioch)

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