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New Ivanov got some applause too.
It seemed to be a rather partisan crowd. :-/

I just finished watching parts of the speeches on C-SPAN. It was quite interesting. I saw Spain, Mexico, France, UK, USA, China and a few others. I thought Straw's remarks for the UK were quite good, as were the remarks by the Spanish ambassador. Powell was forceful but did seem exasperated.

It really seemed to me that France and Russia were the odd men out in the bits that I saw. But since they have a veto, their votes certainly have to be considered. The French minister Villepin almost seemed to taunt Powell with his remarks about his "old" country and mentioning the terrorism conference (where he sprun his trap on Powell). He didn't seem interested in reaching an agreement with the US, IMO.

Based on what I saw, I don't expect the UK and the US to offer a resolution that speaks of swift consequences. But I don't think France's proposal for increasing the number of inspectors, etc., to go anywhere either. I expect intensive efforts to be made to reach some agreement over the next week or so, but unless Powell and Straw can magically sway Ivanov and Villepin I think it will be for naught.

It's unfortunate, but I think the UN will sit out whatever military action will happen unless Saddam immediately changes his stripes. And I don't think he will.

If you get a chance, watch the proceedings yourself.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Thanks, summary appreciated. No cable here.
New C-Span.org has video.
If you've got the patience to sit in front of your monitor, you can see it over the net.

[link|http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?Cat=&Code=|http://www.c-span.or...es.asp?Cat=&Code=]

Click on "U.N. Security Council Meeting" for 2/14/2003 near the bottom. It's 3 hours and 20 minutes. It's a javascript link (I haven't tried it myself).

The major news outlets have summaries and opinions about it as well. E.g. [link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10350-2003Feb14.html|WashPost]. They saw a lot more of the presentation than I did and came to a different conclusion.

Cheers,
Scott.
New TIVO + cable siren song is playing in background __;-)
     US vs The World? - (Brandioch) - (20)
         Whoever gets the most applause wins, A french game I take it -NT - (boxley) - (19)
             Okay, I'm sensing some petulance over the issue. - (Brandioch) - (14)
                 With libya in charge of human rights and Iraq in charge of - (boxley) - (13)
                     We should walk. - (bepatient) - (12)
                         not walk, keep your enemies where you can see them - (boxley) - (6)
                             Yup. "Petulance". - (Brandioch)
                             Where we can see them? - (marlowe) - (4)
                                 1950: "Impeach Earl Warren! US outta the UN!" Gramma speaks -NT - (Ashton) - (3)
                                     Of course I only know your side of that story... - (marlowe) - (2)
                                         what do you have against Iron Butterfly? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                             Listened to the album yesterday; I like it - (bbronson)
                         Sure, let's just torpedo the Last Hope of post-adolescent - (Ashton) - (4)
                             They can't be educated too good. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                 Ah...such words of wisdom. - (bepatient)
                             Well...lesse now... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 Iraq is refusing to seat as president at this time - (boxley)
             Ivanov got some applause too. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 Thanks, summary appreciated. No cable here. -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                     C-Span.org has video. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         TIVO + cable siren song is playing in background __;-) -NT - (Ashton)

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