Not a formal legal document

Post #81,625 by mhuber 2/14/03 8:25:39 AM Reply	Not a formal legal document The Declaration is quite seperate from the Constitution. The Right they are talking abut is a natural right, not a legal one. It is protected by the ability to overthrow or shake off a govornment, not any legal framework within that govornment. The Incompleteness Theorem can probably be applied to that Right. That line in the declaration is about open revolt, not the legality of cessesion. I don't quite see the connection. ---- Whatever
Post #81,778 by Ashton 2/14/03 8:19:01 PM Reply	Much better stated..
Post #81,833 by SpiceWare 2/14/03 10:53:44 PM Reply	If it's a "natural right" does it matter if it is legally defined somewhere? Especially when you consider the 9th amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. When they declared indepence, they didn't do so for ALL of the people governed by England, just those over here. Not very different from just a state seceding. I could easily see California deciding to do so if things like [link\|http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/1765007\|this] keep happening. The feds obviously don't have the consent of the governed in this situation. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #81,834 by boxley 2/14/03 10:55:15 PM Reply	Can you say Quebec in Spanish? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] "France," he noted, "has neither winter nor summer, nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks, it is a fine country." Mark Twain
Post #81,836 by SpiceWare 2/14/03 11:06:18 PM Reply	your point? Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #81,838 by boxley 2/14/03 11:18:39 PM Reply	You would have to have lived in both places but the best way to describe it would be Clannish, corrupt, with the havenots, (hispanic as opposed to french) working to take over the economy(good thing) then declaring Spanish only as a language and using draconian enforcement of same causing business flight. Montreal used to be the Financial center of canada until the french majority started enacting laws that all at once tried to remediate past wrongs with a vengeful attitude. Business stopped in its tracks and moved to NYC and tranna. The Quebec economy tanked, and from what Jake123 is saying it is still tanked 27 years later. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] "France," he noted, "has neither winter nor summer, nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks, it is a fine country." Mark Twain
Post #81,856 by SpiceWare 2/15/03 12:19:22 AM Reply	I don't disagree that the results may not be all that great but if doing something that yields unexpected or undesired consequences were illegal, then just about everybody would be in prison. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

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