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Post #81,518

by tuberculosis

2/13/03 5:09:43 PM

Prime had just folded

and the business side was trying to figure out how to move all the prime code off and onto a "currently supported platform". I think they were working on a screen driver emulator so the code could just be recompiled - plus moving from indexed files to oracle.

I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.

--Alan Perlis

Big Misconception by a lot of IT staffers - (boxley) - (45) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:33:10 AM EST

Re: Big Misconception by a lot of IT staffers - (cwbrenn) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:50:25 AM EST

Big difference between helpdesk and developers -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:55:24 AM EST

Well if you want to be helpdesk all your life :-) - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:57:20 AM EST

People who have to unscrew users's machines are helpdesk -NT - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:00:55 AM EST

Point to the example - (broomberg) - (7) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:33:52 PM EST

No I was responding to another post - (boxley) - (6) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:52:06 PM EST

Remembering an Operations Research professor saying.. - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:23:34 PM EST

Patently untrue. - (tseliot) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:58:24 AM EST

You are being paid to provide a professional opinion - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:03:37 PM EST

This is true - (orion) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:17:41 PM EST

Uh huh - like this - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 07:02:44 AM EST

Sounds like the lawfirm I had worked at - (orion) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:19:45 PM EST

This attitude of the Frame folks? - (imric) - (32) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:51:48 PM EST

As I have never worked in a Frame shop - (boxley) - (17) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:58:51 PM EST

*sigh* resistance to change - (imric) - (16) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:13:03 PM EST

Sorry now I can speak from personal experience - (boxley) - (15) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:48:34 PM EST

LINUX DOESNT #@$%& WORK NEVER HAS WORKED AND WONT GO IN HERE - (imric) - (14) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:12:17 PM EST

wether it was the frame IT department or uncaring - (boxley) - (3) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:18:59 PM EST

Harkening back - (imric) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:23:27 PM EST

you call those discussions? :-) - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:26:15 PM EST

*smile* -NT - (imric) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:37:09 AM EST

Also why is "change management" a dicipline all by itself? - (boxley) - (9) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:21:30 PM EST

Dunno. Because people suck at it? - (tseliot) - (8) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:02:47 PM EST

Management only needs to be changed when it is bad - (orion) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:11:26 PM EST

Not sure what that has to do with my point. - (tseliot) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:14:02 PM EST

We have one woman specifically to handle that. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:37:08 PM EST

When did you join my company? - (drewk) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:40:00 PM EST

Sorry my mistake - (orion) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:11:35 PM EST

You've forgotten that entire thread in 'flame' already. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 04:09:50 AM EST

I said I couldn't remember it alll - (orion) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:16:37 PM EST

"Managing" the process of change - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 13, 2003, 11:31:48 AM EST

Cost effective, not toys! - (broomberg) - (10) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:01:58 PM EST

Who said anything about toys? - (imric) - (8) - Feb. 12, 2003, 06:38:05 PM EST

He said *most* MF programmers. - (static) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:07:31 PM EST

You did. - (broomberg) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:19:00 PM EST

Well - that stereotype IS a hot button, with me. - (imric) - (5) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:44:42 PM EST

Do you consider the AS400 a MF? - (broomberg) - (4) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:05:11 PM EST

Nah - a midrange. - (imric) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:55:10 PM EST

Skewed for sure - (broomberg) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2003, 09:20:04 PM EST

Oh, you can have it... - (imric) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2003, 09:25:04 PM EST

RPG isn't that bad - (broomberg) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:22:56 PM EST

the only current interface with framers was my last gig - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:00:29 PM EST

Glass Room People then - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 13, 2003, 07:27:52 AM EST

why didnt they shift to the prime boxen? - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:47:24 AM EST

Prime had just folded - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 13, 2003, 05:09:43 PM EST

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