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Post #81,318 by orion 2/12/03 11:11:35 PM Reply	Sorry my mistake I misread it, I must have skimmed it and thought when you said "change management" you meant to change the management, not whatever it was supposed to be. So what is "change management" anyway, dealing with changes? [link\|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey\| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]
Post #81,344 by Ashton 2/13/03 4:09:50 AM Reply	You've forgotten that entire thread in 'flame' already.
Post #81,537 by orion 2/13/03 8:16:37 PM Reply	I said I couldn't remember it alll and I apparently didn't fully read everything. "Change Management" is a new term to me. I was not sure what it meant besides changing management. [link\|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey\| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]
Post #81,399 by Arkadiy 2/13/03 11:31:48 AM Reply	"Managing" the process of change Anything from deliberately setting the pace of change to making sure it does not destroy the organization to helping people cope with changes. -- We have only 2 things to worry about: That things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.

Big Misconception by a lot of IT staffers - (boxley) - (45) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:33:10 AM EST

Re: Big Misconception by a lot of IT staffers - (cwbrenn) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:50:25 AM EST

Big difference between helpdesk and developers -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:55:24 AM EST

Well if you want to be helpdesk all your life :-) - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:57:20 AM EST

People who have to unscrew users's machines are helpdesk -NT - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:00:55 AM EST

Point to the example - (broomberg) - (7) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:33:52 PM EST

No I was responding to another post - (boxley) - (6) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:52:06 PM EST

Remembering an Operations Research professor saying.. - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:23:34 PM EST

Patently untrue. - (tseliot) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:58:24 AM EST

You are being paid to provide a professional opinion - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:03:37 PM EST

This is true - (orion) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:17:41 PM EST

Uh huh - like this - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 07:02:44 AM EST

Sounds like the lawfirm I had worked at - (orion) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:19:45 PM EST

This attitude of the Frame folks? - (imric) - (32) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:51:48 PM EST

As I have never worked in a Frame shop - (boxley) - (17) - Feb. 11, 2003, 08:58:51 PM EST

*sigh* resistance to change - (imric) - (16) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:13:03 PM EST

Sorry now I can speak from personal experience - (boxley) - (15) - Feb. 11, 2003, 09:48:34 PM EST

LINUX DOESNT #@$%& WORK NEVER HAS WORKED AND WONT GO IN HERE - (imric) - (14) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:12:17 PM EST

wether it was the frame IT department or uncaring - (boxley) - (3) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:18:59 PM EST

Harkening back - (imric) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:23:27 PM EST

you call those discussions? :-) - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:26:15 PM EST

*smile* -NT - (imric) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:37:09 AM EST

Also why is "change management" a dicipline all by itself? - (boxley) - (9) - Feb. 11, 2003, 10:21:30 PM EST

Dunno. Because people suck at it? - (tseliot) - (8) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:02:47 PM EST

Management only needs to be changed when it is bad - (orion) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:11:26 PM EST

Not sure what that has to do with my point. - (tseliot) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2003, 12:14:02 PM EST

We have one woman specifically to handle that. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:37:08 PM EST

When did you join my company? - (drewk) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:40:00 PM EST

Sorry my mistake - (orion) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:11:35 PM EST

You've forgotten that entire thread in 'flame' already. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 04:09:50 AM EST

I said I couldn't remember it alll - (orion) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:16:37 PM EST

"Managing" the process of change - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 13, 2003, 11:31:48 AM EST

Cost effective, not toys! - (broomberg) - (10) - Feb. 12, 2003, 04:01:58 PM EST

Who said anything about toys? - (imric) - (8) - Feb. 12, 2003, 06:38:05 PM EST

He said *most* MF programmers. - (static) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:07:31 PM EST

You did. - (broomberg) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:19:00 PM EST

Well - that stereotype IS a hot button, with me. - (imric) - (5) - Feb. 12, 2003, 07:44:42 PM EST

Do you consider the AS400 a MF? - (broomberg) - (4) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:05:11 PM EST

Nah - a midrange. - (imric) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:55:10 PM EST

Skewed for sure - (broomberg) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2003, 09:20:04 PM EST

Oh, you can have it... - (imric) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2003, 09:25:04 PM EST

RPG isn't that bad - (broomberg) - Feb. 12, 2003, 11:22:56 PM EST

the only current interface with framers was my last gig - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2003, 08:00:29 PM EST

Glass Room People then - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 13, 2003, 07:27:52 AM EST

why didnt they shift to the prime boxen? - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2003, 08:47:24 AM EST

Prime had just folded - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 13, 2003, 05:09:43 PM EST

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