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New Re: Ending the cold war makes him not a good president?
I don't think there *HAS* been a good president in my lifetime. Reagan presided over one of the most corrupt administrations in recent history (CF: Iran-Contra, October Surprise, hell, throw in the S&L stuff as well, I'm sure there's more if I had the time to go digging.) versus some guy who had a problem with his zipper.

I don't give Reagan any more credit for the "end" of the cold war (which was just a brief respite - it's gettin' pretty frosty these days) than I do Clinton for the boom economy. Really, there's not a whole lot the Fed can do to make an economy better - but there's a whole friggin' lot it can do to make things worse.
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
New Re: The "Blame Clinton" thing...
Anybody else notice that when a neocon has nothing better to argue, they trot out the "Clinton sucks" argument? It's kinda like the Chewbacca defense of Political debate...
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
New But Raygun does deserve credit.
If not for ending the Cold War, then at least for being able to spend the Soviet Union out of existence. Of course, the debt he generated in doing so is going to be with us forever. And, reasonable minds may reach different conclusions about whether the price was worth it.

He was an atrocious President on uncountably many other scores, but give the Devil his due, he did spend >Them< (US, too?) out of existence.
New Straw that broke the camel's back.
The SU was going to collapse sooner or later - it was a matter of when, not how. He just gave it a 'friendly little push' to help the process along.

And then totally fumbled the aftermath, along with Bush sr. and Clinton.
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
     Entertainers against the war - (Silverlock) - (16)
         very entertaining - (boxley) - (15)
             One word - (Silverlock) - (14)
                 Yes he was very entertaining -NT - (boxley) - (13)
                     But not a very good president. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (12)
                         Ending the cold war makes him not a good president? - (boxley) - (11)
                             Re: Ending the cold war makes him not a good president? - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                 Re: The "Blame Clinton" thing... - (inthane-chan)
                                 But Raygun does deserve credit. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                     Straw that broke the camel's back. - (inthane-chan)
                             Loving your mother makes you a bad man? - (Silverlock) - (6)
                                 it was YOUR measure in particular I was using -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                     What? - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                         didn't you postulate that Clinton was responsible - (boxley) - (3)
                                             Even if - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                 who was second, johnson or nixon? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     As I stated - (Silverlock)

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