Post #80,399
2/9/03 12:40:42 PM
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Fear of the computer
somehow makes them not want to learn how it works or what to do when an error or dialog box pops up. But that is not the only problem an IT department has with its coworkers in other departments, oh no, there are some that know just a little bit, enough to be dangerious.
Take for example someone who messes with everything on the computer and changes settings and deletes files. I once had someone, back in 1994, who ran every EXE and COM program in his C:\\DOS\\ directory because he was bored. Once he got to FDISK, he erased his hard drive. The dialog prompt said "Warning, this will erase your hard drive, are you sure? (Y/N)" and he hit Yes anyway. Then he wanted me to get all of his files back, oh yeah, he didn't do a backup of his hard drive like he was supposed to. He had the tape drive, just was too lazy to run the backup program before he left from work, etc. He also didn't think of storing his files on the network drive just in case his hard drive went south. Needless to say his boss fired him for that and didn't blame the IT department for it, but after that we had to delete the FDISK program and use it from a floppy disk when we needed it.
Another guys, he booted into DOS mode and used XTree Gold or some DOS utility to take a look at his Windows 95 files. He found SYSTEM.DAT, SYSTEM.DA0, USER.DAT, and USER.DA0 and then deleted them because each one of them took up a large amount of hard drive space. Then after he rebooted into Windows 95, it complained that his registry was missing or invalid. Lucky for us that he had backed up his hard drive, so we ran the DOS version of his tape backup program and pulled out SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT to restore it.
Then there are those who are smart enough to figure out a way around group policies by deleting the files that is used for group policies, and then they can get into Control Panel and other areas and mess things up.
NT 4.0 is not that secure, one way to get to a DOS prompt is to use the IE Browser and then hit "View" and then "Source" to get Notepad up. If you can get to Notepad, then you can make a new document and put into it:
CMD.EXE
Then save it into your Program Groups as something like Jitter.bat and then it will have an icon for it. Then you just click on that icon, and it pops up a DOS prompt that you can type almost anything in and get around NT 4.0 security that prohibits the running of some programs by hiding them, etc. In fact once you've done this, you can run CMD.EXE via the scheduler and it will have Admin access! I've seen so many people do that and then mess up the system. They are smart enough to figure that kind of stuff out, yet they don't know that changing system settings can hose up their workstation. So they change them to the wrong settings.
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Post #80,429
2/9/03 2:39:35 PM
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babble
Peter
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Post #80,582
2/10/03 10:46:20 AM
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What the hell?
He's staying on topic, God damn it! This is not babble. May not be the learned discourse you've come to expect from the distinguished scholars around here (right, CRC?), but this is no babble.
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Post #80,604
2/10/03 12:21:52 PM
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Sorry, Professor Belousov, but if he's staying on topic...
...he sure is doing it in a very babbly kind of way.
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #80,608
2/10/03 12:42:33 PM
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Two points on-topic, one tangential illustration
1. That many people are intimidated into NOT learning how to use a computer, and
2. IT's problem is not just the people who don't know what they are doing, but the people who know just enough to really screw things up.
He then provided an example for #2.
THEN he went off topic, a bit, by delving into NT end-user hacking tips, but it was tangentially related to #2.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
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Post #80,609
2/10/03 12:46:05 PM
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You said it in 2 lines; he positively BURIED it in babble.
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Post #80,614
2/10/03 12:53:05 PM
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That's because I'm a technical writer
and a damn good one to boot.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
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Post #80,625
2/10/03 1:37:05 PM
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Is that...
..."Speaking Technically, a Damn good one!"?
/me ducking and running
b4k4^2
| [link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT | | [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!] | | [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004] | Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
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Post #80,626
2/10/03 1:38:33 PM
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hehe
if you look at it as:
(and a damn good) (one to boot)
it might explain why I was unemployed for over a year. :)
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
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Post #80,627
2/10/03 1:40:57 PM
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Ahh, yes Confuscious ask: Does that leather taste good?
That was good Chris...
/me wiping Diet Mountain Dew off the Screen!
b4k4^2
| [link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT | | [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!] | | [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004] | Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberstrategy-draft.html|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
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Post #80,672
2/10/03 4:10:22 PM
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Indeed, Dr. Conrad -
he's staying on topic. In his own kind of way. Just like His Excelence Dr. Brown or His Learned Lucidity Sir Oxley often do. And we both are off topic. What a shame.
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We have only 2 things to worry about: That
things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.
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Post #80,634
2/10/03 2:14:50 PM
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He sort of did stay on topic...
But given the volume that he posts, and the fraction that actually is relevant, I wouldn't have noticed.
If he, say, limited himself to 3 posts per day and deliberately avoided whining, it would make a huge difference. But as it stands I just skip anything that he posts and wishes that Scott had a twit filter for me to use.
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #80,756
2/10/03 7:43:39 PM
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As I said before
they are picking on me. No other words are needed here.
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Post #80,780
2/10/03 9:12:06 PM
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Ignore it.
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We have only 2 things to worry about: That
things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.
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Post #80,784
2/10/03 9:33:45 PM
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Re: What the hell?
It's offical, Peter's a dick.
-drl
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Post #80,788
2/10/03 9:42:08 PM
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OT didya email the russian broad?
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