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New The "drunk" part, duh.
We've already been over THIS part before.

Again, unless you're claiming that the person launching the missile is drunk.....

Was it an "accident" that they hit that building?
No, they were aiming for it.

Was it an "accident" that people died?
No, they intended to kill people.

Now, am I talking about the WTC attack or the planned bombing of Baghdad?
New ok change metaphors
were the persons launching thi cruise missile screaming about allah as they pulled the trigger, ran outside with a cowboy hat jumped on the missile to ride it down?
your point of view is still stupid and contradicts the FM's used by JAG which you were trying to maul another poster with recently. So the FM's in your view can be disregarded at will? then you just proved blasters point.
thanx,
bill
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New What the fuck?
your point of view is still stupid and contradicts the FM's used by JAG which you were trying to maul another poster with recently.
Would you be a bit more specific with that claim?

So the FM's in your view can be disregarded at will? then you just proved blasters point.
Okay, I think we've reached your limit here. Are you going to be okay to drive home?
New please edit your title
Please indicate which part of the JAG FM's I linked to earlier you feel are going to be disregarded by Central Command.
thanx,
bill
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New Is this some childish game of your's?
Please indicate which part of the JAG FM's I linked to earlier you feel are going to be disregarded by Central Command.
What are you talking about?

What "Central Command"?

What JAG FM's?
New No, its a childish game of mine
only I am not doing it. ;)


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New Hate to bring this up.
Swearing in titles is against the social contract, Brandi. Body text is fine.
New Could I get a copy of the social contract?
Is it hidden in some post somewhere that we are not aware about? It seems nobody knows about it until they've broken one of its rules.


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New How about looking at all forums...
the rules are clearly delineated as such...Forum Guidelines is pretty self-explanatory
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New Re: Could I get a copy of the social contract?
From the "Forum Guidelines" Forum. The first one..at the top of the page when "show new forums only" is disabled.

The profanity censor feature has been disabled on this board, but please keep profanity out of the subject lines. The "Flame ON!" forum is exempt from this rule.
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Steve
New Lets see I have linked to it in 4 different posts
so lets try again shall we?
[link|http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/02spring/butler.htm|http://www.carlisle....spring/butler.htm]
title
Modern War, Modern Law, and Army Doctrine: Are We in Step for the 21st Century?
extract
These future effects will not be limited to only the traditional restrictions defined in US Army Field Manual (FM) 27-10, Laws of Land Warfare, but also will include more recent legal criteria pertaining to the issues of proportionality, \ufffddual-use\ufffd infrastructure, terror, and even environmental damage.

note the FM reference 27-10
another reference FM-6-20-10
Tactics, Techniques and Procedures for the Targeting Process
FM-6-20-10 notes that the responsibility to monitor the effects of friendly operations on the civilian populace is within the realm of the G-5 or civil affairs officer. As part of this responsibility, a G-5 officer is nominally placed in the plans cell of the division or corps main command post.[32] With regard to that representative\ufffds role in the targeting process, he or she is to \ufffdproduce input to the Restricted Targets List (RTL) and to coordinate [civil affairs] support for the Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield (IPB) and targeting process.\ufffd[33] In reality, however, it is difficult to envision how the G-5 or civil affairs representative could play any substantive role in a dynamic maneuver environment--either in the euphemistically vague mission of \ufffdcoordinating [civil affairs] support for the IPB and targeting process,\ufffd or in the more defined mission of providing input to the RTL.

As presently envisioned, the bulk of the civil affairs assets will be operating out of the rear command post, and will form the nucleus of the rear area operations cell (RAOC). While the RAOC is tasked to gather information from such sources as host-nation agencies, civil affairs units, interrogations of prisoners of war, and defector reports, most of this information relates to a static battlefield environment. This information, while valuable, may be days old, and will not be of particular use in tracking various transient civilian or protected objects (refugee gathering areas, mobile medical facilities or shelters, governmental or nongovernmental organizations, humanitarian relief assets, etc.). In addition, the RAOC will normally be to the rear of the main command post, and consequently well removed from the current operations cell, the intelligence cell, and the analysis control element. Without constant access to these sources of combat information and tactical and operational intelligence on the enemy side of the forward boundary, it is difficult to envision how accurate monitoring and tracking of these civilian personnel and objects could be accomplished. At the same time, such information assembled at the RAOC must be available in a timely manner to the plans, current operations, and targeting cells, where it can be integrated into the commander\ufffds view of the battlefield environment and factored into his or her decisionmaking process.
As you can see no where is made mention of kicking a baby in the head as you claim is going to happen. Stomping a baby to death would in fact introduce to these people [link|http://www.jagcnet.army.mil/|http://www.jagcnet.army.mil/] who would do their best to introduce you to these folks [link|http://www.lvarea.com/data/prison.htm|http://www.lvarea.com/data/prison.htm] so the process is not the same as deliberately targeting civilians by flying airplanes into buildings while shuffling your prayer beads.
Central Command [link|http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/04/franks.probe/|http://www.cnn.com/2.../04/franks.probe/] is where even the bosses wife sits in on sitreps to ensure that minimum civilian deaths occur.
Now because in your blathering with blaster you quoted FM's as the basis for how things are done I respectfully suggest that you apologise to him because you are advocating ignoring all the FM's listed above and stomping babies in the head.
anything else I can do ya for today?
thanx,
bill

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New I guess I always have a dog in this fight..
No quarrel with the RTFM homework. The argument is at a higher echelon:

The level of the meta-RTFM: where the RTFM gets written; the C-in-C (whether moderately sane [?] a mere nasty dry-drunk, or just plain fucking *Determined to piss off the entire world that is not-US)

* as in, a C-student-stubborn & bellicose Yahoo from Texas

Once he has given the order: the entire armed forces become his "airplane flying into buildings in cities". The rest is just bookkeeping procedural crap. The rest is.. just the usual rationalization and daily repetition of crap-sounds like

WMDs WMDs WMDs WMDsWMDs WMDsWMDs WMDsWMDs WMDsWMDsWMDs. . . .

THIS! BS-mantra from the Largest Possessor and Purveyor of WMDs in the history of the entire fucking Planet!!!
(then there's Russia, UK, India, Pakistan, France, NK, ex? So. Africa whenever they reassemble, Israel -- none of whom qualify as Quiiiite the same kinda 'Terrorist' as S[oil]ad[oil]dam.)

We're poised to terrorize a whole bunch of mere Iraqis because: everyone non-US in the world always *is* a mere, a life worth much less than a Murican. We'll pay, soon enough, after the Blitzkrieg of a Hippo smashing a gnat. And the reaction.

So much for rationales and rationalizations - in fact: so Much for Language. BS == BS, no matter how polysyllabic the RTFM or the IVth Reich Propaganda Ministry du jour.


My 3 DMarks,

Ashton
New I see your 3DMarks
And lower it to 4 pfennigs.

No sense in spending too much on a "lost" cause.

We go to war with Iraq, just to prop up the politicians' egos, and we may as well stop all air traffic into the US, and put up a 30 foot fence around the entire country. Oh, better check that anti-missle defense system.
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             Now, now. - (Brandioch)
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                         it is your merite shuffle that needs clarification - (boxley) - (18)
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                                             What the fuck? - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                                 please edit your title - (boxley) - (9)
                                                     Is this some childish game of your's? - (Brandioch) - (8)
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                                                             Could I get a copy of the social contract? - (orion) - (2)
                                                                 How about looking at all forums... - (bepatient)
                                                                 Re: Could I get a copy of the social contract? - (Steve Lowe)
                                                         Lets see I have linked to it in 4 different posts - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             I guess I always have a dog in this fight.. - (Ashton) - (1)
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