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New Lost cause here Brandi - he just doesn't get it ...

You scored a direct hit with the bit about the 9/11 hijackers and their victims -

esp when we know about the poor bastards who leapt to hell out the shattered windows and the horror of those who witnessed it all - also the poor innocent people shitting themselves in the aeroplane as it hit - but by Box's screwed up definition the hijackers are not guilty of an appaling set of murders - person by person.


Doug Marker
Collapse Edited by dmarker Jan. 31, 2003, 04:36:14 AM EST
Lost cause here Brandi - he just doesn't get it
New How far away from a War is - far enough? (new thread)
Created as new thread #78323 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=78323|How far away from a War is - far enough?]
New Nice try no cigar
The terrorists caused mass killings. That was their aim. Was it murder? Yes it was deliberate attacks against civilians. Are our cruise missiles deliberately directed at civilian targets? hardly.
thanx,
bill
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New WTF?
The terrorists caused mass killings. That was their aim. Was it murder? Yes it was deliberate attacks against civilians.
That is true. They deliberately flew those planes into buildings that the knew people were in.

Are our cruise missiles deliberately directed at civilian targets? hardly.
WTF? We are deliberately aiming them at buildings that we know people are in.

It is the EXACT same scenario.

They use planes.
We use missles.

They target buildings occupied by civilians.
We target buildings occupied by civilians.

They don't care about the people being killed.
We don't care about the people being killed.

They spent lots of time planning the attack.
We spend lots of time planning the attack.

Those are the facts.

We are NOT doing ANYTHING to AVOID civilian deaths.

We ARE setting up our attack in such a way that it will ENSURE civilian deaths.

Yet there IS a way where we will NOT kill ANY civilians AND WE ARE NOT TAKING THAT WAY.
     Neither peace nor justice - the truth about the protestors - (marlowe) - (56)
         That's what you civilians don't understand. - (Brandioch) - (54)
             They also don't understand warlordism. - (tseliot) - (53)
                 Target "the people?" - (marlowe) - (52)
                     I forgot about the M16 the little vietnamese girl carried - (boxley) - (48)
                         I'm claiming there will be no more civilian casualties... - (marlowe) - (47)
                             Dont mistake me for a non warring party - (boxley) - (45)
                                 Big difference when you're on invasion rather than defense. - (Brandioch)
                                 Dead babies in the streets is a price... - (marlowe) - (43)
                                     This is what is called a "principle". - (Brandioch) - (42)
                                         sorry 2. Im for going in also -NT - (boxley) - (41)
                                             I want to you post that. - (Brandioch) - (40)
                                                 nice try - (boxley) - (39)
                                                     A generation that doesn't understand death. - (Brandioch) - (38)
                                                         Paying what price - (boxley) - (37)
                                                             F***ing cop out Bill - (dmarker) - (1)
                                                                 what copout? You believe that kicking a baby to death - (boxley)
                                                             "One is murder, the other is killing." - (Brandioch) - (34)
                                                                 Lost cause here Brandi - he just doesn't get it ... - (dmarker) - (3)
                                                                     How far away from a War is - far enough? (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                                     Nice try no cigar - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                         WTF? - (Brandioch)
                                                                 when was the last time the US was invaded - (boxley) - (29)
                                                                     NATO. Our allies. - (Brandioch) - (28)
                                                                         kettle pot, puke away - (boxley) - (27)
                                                                             Wow, a 100% content free post. - (Brandioch) - (26)
                                                                                 the priciple of qickly sidetepping valid points? - (boxley) - (13)
                                                                                     I think the opposite has been claimed. - (Brandioch) - (12)
                                                                                         When did I ever argue otherwise? - (boxley) - (11)
                                                                                             Here's a link that you might have forgotten about. - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                                                                                 we are getting ready to kill kids and you are wrong - (boxley) - (9)
                                                                                                     Awww, does it hurt when you're shown to be wrong? - (Brandioch) - (8)
                                                                                                         No need to apologise or capitulate, - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                                                             I do neither. And you've shifted your position. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                                                                                 puke away, you just shifted YOUR position - (boxley) - (5)
                                                                                                                     Cute. But I can post references to your posts. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                                                                                         I did post a reference to that and you ignored it - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                                             Make all the claims you want to. The proof is delivery. - (Brandioch)
                                                                                                                         Oh Christ, the magic man returns!! self referencing proves! - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                                             Careful, you'll wake the Merlin - Paris, France. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                 Information isn't perfect. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                                                     Check the rhetoric on that one. - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                                                                         I'll try one more time.... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                             Don't bother trying to confuse the issue. - (Brandioch)
                                                                                         We're not firing at a city - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                                                                                             Re: We're not firing at a city - (TTC) - (6)
                                                                                                 try this one for context - (boxley)
                                                                                                 If Saddam has half a brain, - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                                                                                     Re: If Saddam has half a brain, - (TTC) - (3)
                                                                                                         We're firing at very specific building in a city - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                                                                                             Heard a lengthy analysis yesterday of our 'Tactical Plan' - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                                 Maybe caution will prevail - (Arkadiy)
                             Hey, in 150 years, they'll all be dead anyway. - (Brandioch)
                     Already been stated. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                         Is it possible for some of us to - (dmarker) - (1)
                             :) - (Brandioch)
         The exactsame dissembling occurred re Vietnam demonstrations - (Ashton)

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