Post #76,289
1/23/03 4:05:02 AM
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How many of y'all get emails from Nigeria ...
Dr Ooggaa Boogga (whatever) of either Nigerian Petroleum or the Nigerian Govt,
telling you they have approached you to help them shift 21 million US (pick a figure between 10mill & 50mill) out of the country for a 40% commission (to you).
I get about 1 per fortnight at the moment - If I added them all up it would reach the billions of $US (unless they are largely talking about the same mythical sum in which case the total fantasy is less than the billions).
If anyone wants one - or would like to see the contents of one, let me know & I will either forward to yo or post here.
Cheers Doug
(PS I seem to recall hearing of one Brit got killed when he went to Nigeria to confront the fraudsters after he forked over txfr & legal fees of 100,000 UK pounds - what a f***ing dope)
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Post #76,292
1/23/03 4:38:57 AM
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Nigeriascam mails? Enough to...
...write a FAQ about it: \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nThe above is an example of the "Nigerian Scam", also called 419 Letters,\r\nor just plain 419. Most 419 letters and emails originate from or are\r\ntraceable back to Nigeria. However, some originate from other nations,\r\nmostly also West African nations such as Ghana, Togo, Liberia, Sierra\r\nLeone, Ivory Coast ( Cote D'Ivoire ) etc. \r\n\r\nIt's the current wrinkle of a decades-old scam that nets tens of\r\nmillions of dollars per year, and may be the third largest industry in\r\nNigeria. The 419 Coalition believes that it is the elites from which\r\nsuccessive governments of Nigeria have been drawn who are the scammers.\r\nExpect little cooperation from Nigerian authorities.\r\n\r\nInformation in this notice is compiled from various sources, links\r\nbelow. Keep reading for reporting information.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Scam operates as follows: the target receives an unsolicited fax,\r\nemail, or letter concerning Nigeria containing either a money laundering\r\nor other illegal proposal OR you may receive a Legal and Legitimate\r\nbusiness proposal by normal means. Invariably, the proposition involves\r\nresources which are somehow locked up: oil or other invoice problems, a\r\nbequest, money cleaning, or misallocated funds.\r\n\r\nAt some point, the victim is asked to pay up front an Advance Fee of\r\nsome sort. If the victim pays the Fee, there are many "Complications"\r\nwhich require still more advance payments until the victim either quits,\r\nruns out of money, or both. \r\n\r\n\r\nTo report the scam:\r\n\r\n If you are a United States Citizen or Resident and have suffered NO\r\n Financial Loss, write "No Financial Loss - For Your Database" on the\r\n documents you received and Fax them to the US Secret Service Task\r\n Force handling Scam matters at 202-406-6930.\r\n\r\n Documents may be emailed to \r\n \r\n [link|mailto:419.fcd@usss.treas.gov?subject:No Loss -- 419 Scam|mailto:419.fcd@usss.treas.gov?subject:No Loss -- 419 Scam]\r\n\r\n IF you are a United States Citizen or Resident and YOU HAVE SUFFERED\r\n A FINANCIAL LOSS write "Financial Loss - Contact Me ASAP" on the\r\n documents you have received and Fax them to the Task Force at\r\n 202-406-6930 and give Your telephone number(s). A Secret Service\r\n Agent will call you back as soon as possible to discuss the matter\r\n with you (don't worry, you're Not in any trouble).\r\n\r\n (Above from [link|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm])\r\n\r\nOther countries have their own reporting methods, see above for more\r\ninfo.\r\n\r\n\r\nAdditional information:\r\n\r\n Google search:\r\n [link|http://www.google.com/search?q=nigeria+scam|http://www.google.com/search?q=nigeria+scam]\r\n\r\n Federal Republic of Nigeria, Embassy:\r\n [link|http://www.embassy.org/embassies/ng.html|http://www.embassy.org/embassies/ng.html]\r\n\r\n Sierra Leone: Nigerian 419 Scam:\r\n [link|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scams.html|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scams.html]\r\n \r\n\tSample letters are archives as no's 01 - 33:\r\n\t[link|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scam01.html|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scam01.html] - \r\n\t[link|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scam33.html|http://www.sierra-leone.org/scam33.html]\r\n\r\n Nigeria Scam Letter Archive\r\n [link|http://www.scamorama.com/|http://www.scamorama.com/]\r\n\r\n Nigeria - The 419 Coalition Website\r\n [link|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm]\r\n\r\n U.S. Postal Authorities crack down on Nigerian Spam\r\n [link|http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/pressrel.htm|http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/pressrel.htm]\r\n\r\n Nigeria - The 419 Coalition Website\r\n [link|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm|http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm]\r\n\r\n Urban Legends: Nigerian Scam\r\n [link|http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/scams/nigeria.htm|http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/scams/nigeria.htm]\r\n\r\n Salon: I crave your distinguished indulgence (and all your cash)\r\n [link|http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/08/07/419scams/print.html|http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/08/07/419scams/print.html]\r\n\r\n Nigerian 419 Scam "Game Over!"\r\n [link|http://home.pacbell.net/jpaladin/|http://home.pacbell.net/jpaladin/]\r\n Book describes how the scam plays out.\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n --\r\n
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n
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Post #76,306
1/23/03 8:28:56 AM
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You must've gotten on someone's sucker list.
Maybe the WWP sold your info.
Victory is the answer. There are no alternatives.
Move ZOG for great justice!
Where's Abdul Rahman Yasin?
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Post #76,307
1/23/03 8:35:12 AM
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Ohh!!! - so they really should be going to you
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Post #76,316
1/23/03 9:59:05 AM
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Well, I don't know anything about fortnights, but . . .
. . I get about 2 emailed a day and a bout two faxed a month. I liked it a lot better when they used snail mail 'caus I'd get a nice envelope with a Nigerian stamp on it, but that's way too expensive for the volume of business they're doing today.
Recently, a 58 year old legal secretary at a high priced law office in the U.S. was found to have embezzled $12 million and sent it to Nigeria. Having worked so long in a law office she was probably no longer able to recognize either reality or ethics and probably just thought this time it was her turn. The lawyers didn't notice until a $35,000 check bounced.
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Post #76,327
1/23/03 10:32:44 AM
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Unit of time. 14 days.
Sheesh. The American education system failed YOU, didn't it?
:-)
Peter
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Post #76,333
1/23/03 10:47:56 AM
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We don't do 'fortnights' here...it's simply 'two weeks'
Sheesh!
Manufactured time intervals...just what the world needs!
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
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Post #76,336
1/23/03 10:56:05 AM
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1/26th of a yahren. HTH. :-D
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Post #76,343
1/23/03 11:15:05 AM
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Manufactured....
...just like a "week".
YHL. HAND.
Peter
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Post #76,363
1/23/03 1:05:48 PM
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Hey! A week is 1/52 of a year...
...rounded as a result of integer math, of course....
;-\ufffd
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
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Post #76,334
1/23/03 10:54:32 AM
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yabbut whats fortnight in metric? 10 days
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
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Post #76,421
1/23/03 2:48:17 PM
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Do the words "metric" and "decimal" look IDENTICAL to you???
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Post #76,425
1/23/03 3:03:01 PM
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Re: "metric" and "decimal"
[link|http://zapatopi.net/metrictime.html|French Revolutionary Metric Time] Amount Description
10 metric hours in a day
100 metric minutes in a metric hour
100 metric seconds in a metric minute
10 days in a metric week (called a dekade) We are simply stuck in Anglo-Babylonian Time. :) Alex
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."\t-- Mark Twain
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Post #76,457
1/23/03 5:06:17 PM
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both are base 10
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
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Post #76,465
1/23/03 5:25:20 PM
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Nope - one, the numbering system, is...
...but the other, the *measurement* system, is all about being based on simple naturally-occuring quantities, *inter-related* to each other.
Like, the definition of the meter (length) being based on the size of the Earth(*); the definition of the liter (volume) being based on the meter(+); the definition of the kilogram (weight) being based on the liter($), and so on and on.
The fact that the units *within* each realm then are sub-divided in whole powers of ten is incidental, chosen just because it's the most convenient when the numbering system we use -- but the main thing is, it makes for nice clean transitions *between* the realms.
As opposed to, say, "What's the mass-equivalent of the kinetic energy of one pint of lard, travelling at one million furlongs per fortnight", where you have a zillion weird and ARBITRARY unit-conversion factors to perform along the calculation.
Do you *finally* get the frigging difference, now?!?
Oh, well... Didn't think so. :-(
(*): Originally defined as one ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the poles.
(+): The size -- volume -- of a cube with sides one-tenth of a meter.
($): The weight -- uh, sorry, mass -- of one liter of water.
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #76,468
1/23/03 5:34:39 PM
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heh, naturally occuring quantities
naturally a litre was defined as an ARBITRARY measurement of an INcorrectly based distance around the earth. So the premise was wrong and all you have left is a 10 based system of larger and smaller arbitrary measurements.So milli's become liters. Gils become quarts and the US gallon is smaller than the imperial but it doesnt matter. Metric measurement is a convenience not a law of nature. The ONLY reason it is convenient is because it is based 10 which is what most of the world can accurately add and subtract using their fingies.
Bah,
thanx,
bill
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Post #76,478
1/23/03 6:23:30 PM
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Oh, for... See, I KNEW you wouldn't get it!!! (new thread)
Created as new thread #76477 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=76477|Oh, for... See, I KNEW you wouldn't get it!!!]
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #76,540
1/23/03 10:03:38 PM
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You bitch! I'll see you when you get home!
-drl
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Post #76,824
1/24/03 9:14:20 PM
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question, how far apart are the centers of wall studs
in a metric society. In a frame building here we use either metal or wood evenly spaced uprights then cover and insulate them to build a wall. Do Finns use the same type of construction and if so what is the generally accepted spacing between them? Curious.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
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Post #77,189
1/27/03 10:25:06 AM
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Dunno, sixty cm I think. Or eighty. Why? (And so what?)
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Post #77,195
1/27/03 10:31:47 AM
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Just curiousity
Around here it is either 16inch or 24inch centers so in our measurement scheme it comes out somewhat even and being used to it, easy to calculate. Now an american based carpenter might have problems working in eaurope.
thanx,
Bill
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Murray Rothbard
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Post #76,348
1/23/03 11:39:10 AM
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Thank God you're there to take up the slack
-drl
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Post #76,350
1/23/03 11:44:12 AM
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Yes, but, that unit is used here only by . .
. . English spy novels and people pretending to be British. I got over that when I left college**, so I deliberately do not know what a fortnight is.
** I was really good at it too. I had subscriptions to Punch and the Manchester Guardian and studdied them intently. I never did master localization though, so when English expatriots asked me, "I don't quite place your accent, what part of England did you come from?", I had to confess, "California".
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Post #76,351
1/23/03 11:52:32 AM
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..or Madonna
-drl
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Post #76,364
1/23/03 1:06:58 PM
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ROFL!
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
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Post #76,370
1/23/03 1:23:52 PM
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Not in my education,
In college we once used [link|http://www.jardine-engineering.com/written/furlong1.html|furlongs per fortnight]. We also use jiffies. A jiffy is 1/60 of a second being one cycle of the local electric power.
So there! :)
Alex
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."\t-- Mark Twain
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Post #76,372
1/23/03 1:28:03 PM
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Jiffy
This IIRC is also used to measure the time it takes light to cross a hydrogen atom (more precisely, 1 Bohr radius).
Wonder if our nose-up-his-camera-tracked-ass Brit got that info in his superiour education?
-drl
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Post #76,374
1/23/03 1:30:22 PM
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Thought that was a 'shake'
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Post #76,377
1/23/03 1:38:08 PM
1/23/03 1:42:26 PM
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Conflicting defs
A quick look also has a jiffy = 1 cm / speed of light and 1 Planck Length/speed of light. Never heard of a shake.
According to this:
[link|http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictS.html|http://www.unc.edu/~.../units/dictS.html]
..a shake is 10 nanoseconds, about 10 feet.
-drl
Edited by deSitter
Jan. 23, 2003, 01:42:26 PM EST
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Post #76,393
1/23/03 2:04:43 PM
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No...
but I can spell "superior".
I must say, I don't measure an awful lot of hydrogen atoms these days.
Must have slipped my mind.
Peter
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Post #76,317
1/23/03 10:00:39 AM
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Everybody gets those
[link|http://www.tractixconsulting.com/zubin/zu-nigeria.html|A friend of mine had fun with one of them] and showed what a real scam it is.
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Post #76,331
1/23/03 10:46:04 AM
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Spam? I don't get any spam.
Spamassassin sees to that. :)
'Course, I have to clear out a box of about 1000 e-mails every fortnight...
Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.
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Post #76,371
1/23/03 1:26:42 PM
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Reg has a T Shirt for you
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Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance -
Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation.
BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
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Post #76,511
1/23/03 8:39:47 PM
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Omnifluous LRPD - Who invented this stupid sport, anyway?
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Post #76,515
1/23/03 8:47:46 PM
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early phonecians I beleive
it is a version of "the pigeon drop" where a wallet is left in front of a mark who a helpful passerby tries to keep him honest. Wallet stuffed with bills is placed in a claim repository and a ticket devided. The mark is asked for cash security for his portion of the ticket. He later opens the box and finds a wallet full of newsprint. Oldy but numerous variations are worked even on the net.
thanx,
bill
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Post #76,579
1/23/03 11:20:24 PM
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Just discovered HK police webpage on the scams
[link|http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/main_in.html|NIGERIAN LETTERS- How does the scam work]
<<
People all around the world have received letters from Nigeria, ostensibly from a "Senior Government Official" or "Officer" of a Nigerian State business who claims to have stolen millions of dollars from a foreign aid payment or UN grants. The letter writer states that he cannot put the money into his own Nigerian bank account but instead needs a foreign bank account through which to launder the money.
The culprits promise that if you allow the millions to be deposited into your bank account you may keep anywhere from 10% to 30% of the deposit. All that is needed is the provision of your bank account number. Needless to say once the account number is provided, your account is drained. Can you believe that some of these letters have actually been addressed to Police Headquarters
>>
There are lots of links there as well
Cheers Doug
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