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New As to point one?
Please tell me where anything remotely conceived of as >justice< was referenced?

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New I think it was freeing mumia

At some point, progressive politics reached a state where freeing Mumia was considered critical and electing a Democratic president was considered optional.


From the original article.

Frankly I have no knowledge on this guy. A website is [link|http://www.freemumia.org/intro.html| here.]
New Ok.
Here's what you need to know.

Convicted cop killer. Witnessed to have done it. Killing shot...point blank...in the face.

If someone wants to make a point about >justice<...they really should pick a better case.

[link|http://www.grandlodgefop.org/faulkner/danny.html|On December 9, 1981,] at approximately 3:55 a.m., Officer Danny Faulkner, a five year veteran of the Philadelphia Police Department, made a traffic stop at Locust Street near Twelfth Street. The car stopped by Officer Faulkner was being driven by William Cook. After making the stop, Danny called for assistance on his police radio and requested a police wagon to transport a prisoner. Unbeknownst to him, William Cook's brother, Wesley [link|http://www.danielfaulkner.com/mythsdir.html|(aka Mumia Abu-Jamal)] was across the street. As Danny attempted to handcuff William Cook, Mumia Abu-Jamal ran from across the street and shot the officer in the back. Danny turned and was able to fire one shot that struck Abu-Jamal in the chest; the wounded officer then fell to the pavement. Mumia Abu-Jamal stood over the downed officer and shot at him four more times at close range, striking him once directly in the face. Mumia Abu-Jamal was found still at the scene of the shooting by officers who arrived there within seconds. The murderer was slumped against the curb in front of his brother's car. In his possession was a .38 caliber revolver that records showed Mumia had purchased months earlier. The chamber of the gun had five spent cartridges. A cab driver, as well as other pedestrians, had witnessed the brutal slaying and identified Mumia Abu-Jamal as the killer both at the scene and during his trial. On July 2, 1982, after being tried before a jury of ten whites and two blacks, Mumia Abu-Jamal was convicted of murdering Officer Danny Faulkner. The next day, the jury sentenced him to death after deliberating for four hours. The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania heard the defendant's appeals and upheld the conviction on March 6, 1989.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Like I said, I know nothing of this case...
but the web site I pulled up indicates that the officer was killed with a .44.

(I only mention it to tweak boxley's Vince Foster issue).
New I'm sure it does.
I guess you didn't [link|http://www.danielfaulkner.com/mythsdir.html|follow the link?]

I bet it said that, in addition, 4 people saw someone running from the scene. One was a prosecution witness that saw Cook shoot the cop, the other 3 didn't actually see the shooting. Add to that the racist Judge and all white jury...I'll bet its all there.

They're trying...have been for 22 years...but the facts are very simple. He shot a cop in the back...then finished him off with a shot to the face...with >his< gun...and the ammo pulled from the dead cop matched the type and rifling of the spent shells found in his gun...that was sitting right next to him on the ground...removed from the holster that he was wearing at the time. Oh...did I mention that he was seen doing it?

22 years of spin seem to have some folks convinced otherwise...and seem to get the guy treated like some kind of political prisoner...not a failed disk jockey turned cab driver turned cop killer.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New I don't know the case either, but I do find it interesting..
that the fact that some of the war protestors apparently support a review of this guys case is being used by the medja and other right wing loonies to paint all people protesting the impending war as cop-killer lovers.

Of all the people that were at the marches, this small subset is getting the most press and air time. It's the same ol', same ol' bullshit from the right-biased press in this country: "Look! See! All these lefties are evil. They even love cop-killers!"

Geez, what I wouldn't give for a press free of corporate influence. About the only popular news outlet I can stand to read anymore is the oldest news magazine in the United States: The Nation.
New Its simple really.
They are all, every one of them, being duped by someone with alot of lies and a different agenda.

Its quite an impressive list, actually. Some folks I had a decent amount of respect for.

Since its a "Philly" thing...though slightly before my time...there is no end of debate about it...and despite alot of grandstanding in the trial...Mumia couldn't...and still cannot...counter the base evidence...officer shot with his gun, in his possession, with his ammo and he was seen doing it.

Somehow they have taken a taxi driver/cop-killer and made him a world-reknown political prisoner. It is an amazing story of marketing that even MS would be proud of.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New When the usual suspects get together to organize a march
they get most of the press. When a march is organised the idea is to get numbers so list it as a anti-war march. Once everyone is there you have a captive audience for the organizers pet peeves which are usually marginal to the people marching and reckless to the rest of society. However since you brought the bull horns and microphones you get to call the tune. Stupid I know but the news only covers the loudest voices which are often the snivelling unwashed.
thanx,
bill
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