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New Clearly BS hates programmers and doesn't trust them
as far as he can throw them. Why else would he work so hard to wrap everything in a straight jacket? Java is kind of that way too but more moderate.

The only thing C++ ought to be used for is purposes for which it was designed. If you're not writing a telephone switching operating system, you don't need it.



I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.

--Alan Perlis
Collapse Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:33 AM EDT
Clearly BS hates programmers and doesn't trust them
as far as he can throw them. Why else would he work so hard to wrap everything in a straight jacket? Java is kind of that way too but more moderate.

The only thing C++ ought to be used for is purposes for which it was designed. If you're not writing a telephone switching operating system, you don't need it.



I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.

--Alan Perlis
     I *heart* C++ - (admin) - (30)
         GNU compilers both sides? - (marlowe)
         What is the type of m_server_address? - (Arkadiy) - (3)
             As noted: - (admin) - (2)
                 Re: As noted: - (deSitter) - (1)
                     It isn't. - (admin)
         Fix: - (admin) - (24)
             const is a design error - (tuberculosis) - (23)
                 One of my directives for this port: - (admin) - (8)
                     Re: One of my directives for this port: - (deSitter) - (7)
                         The "const" attribute means that, within the given scope,... - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                             Because it's not supposed to be modified... - (ChrisR) - (5)
                                 Yes, I remember all that.. - (deSitter) - (3)
                                     Re: why bother? - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                         Well, yes, that was what BS was obsessing on - (deSitter) - (1)
                                             Clearly BS hates programmers and doesn't trust them - (tuberculosis)
                                 Re: Because it's not supposed to be modified... - (JimWeirich)
                 Re: const is a design error - (JimWeirich) - (13)
                     Only if such differences exist - (tuberculosis) - (12)
                         Fun in computing. - (static)
                         Re: Only if such differences exist - (JimWeirich) - (10)
                             const functions - (tuberculosis) - (9)
                                 Well, it doesnt' appear to be overloaded on const - (Simon_Jester) - (8)
                                     Re: Well, it doesnt' appear to be overloaded on const - (JimWeirich)
                                     No, thats exactly the problem - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                         This is what bugs me in Scott's problem... - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                             I was pissed enough at the problem - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                                 I was pissed enough that I: - (admin) - (3)
                                                     Solution - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                                         ROFL - (admin)
                                                         Re: "..you can make it swallow the code." Beautiful! -NT - (a6l6e6x)

If there are really aliens, I would think that L. Ron Hubbard would have to be one of them.
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