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Post #75,300 by a6l6e6x 1/17/03 10:58:51 PM Reply	Re: why bother? Because you don't "own" and may not know the innards of the function you use and the const is part of a compiler enforced interface spec that leads to more predictable code behavior. When all the code is yours, it does not matter so much. Unless, like me, you may forget what you've done in a couple of weeks. Alex "No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."\t-- Mark Twain
Post #75,304 by deSitter 1/17/03 11:06:45 PM Reply	Well, yes, that was what BS was obsessing on ..but why not just make an API with use instructions? If you use it wrong, you will get burned. CAUTION: Don't use the space heater in a room filled with natural gas. CAUTION: Remain clear of the blast zone. CAUTION: Failure to deploy flaps in a timely manner will result in a stall and a fiery metallic death on landing. CAUTION: Consuming ten times the recommended dosage of this medicine may produce symptoms such as breathlessness, little or no heartbeat, and lack of motivation. You can't prevent people from being stupid. You have to give them the freedom to be smart. -drl
Post #75,455 by tuberculosis 1/18/03 6:58:50 PM 8/21/07 6:25:33 AM Reply	Clearly BS hates programmers and doesn't trust them as far as he can throw them. Why else would he work so hard to wrap everything in a straight jacket? Java is kind of that way too but more moderate. The only thing C++ ought to be used for is purposes for which it was designed. If you're not writing a telephone switching operating system, you don't need it. I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more. --Alan Perlis Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:33 AM EDT Expand All History

I *heart* C++ - (admin) - (30) - Jan. 17, 2003, 11:52:49 AM EST

GNU compilers both sides? - (marlowe) - Jan. 17, 2003, 12:54:16 PM EST

What is the type of m_server_address? - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Jan. 17, 2003, 02:55:27 PM EST

As noted: - (admin) - (2) - Jan. 17, 2003, 03:01:40 PM EST

Re: As noted: - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 17, 2003, 03:04:08 PM EST

It isn't. - (admin) - Jan. 17, 2003, 03:05:50 PM EST

Fix: - (admin) - (24) - Jan. 17, 2003, 03:04:37 PM EST

const is a design error - (tuberculosis) - (23) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:17:22 AM EDT

One of my directives for this port: - (admin) - (8) - Jan. 17, 2003, 04:38:07 PM EST

Re: One of my directives for this port: - (deSitter) - (7) - Jan. 17, 2003, 05:22:29 PM EST

The "const" attribute means that, within the given scope,... - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Jan. 17, 2003, 05:42:03 PM EST

Because it's not supposed to be modified... - (ChrisR) - (5) - Jan. 17, 2003, 07:31:13 PM EST

Yes, I remember all that.. - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 17, 2003, 10:31:53 PM EST

Re: why bother? - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Jan. 17, 2003, 10:58:51 PM EST

Well, yes, that was what BS was obsessing on - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 17, 2003, 11:06:45 PM EST

Clearly BS hates programmers and doesn't trust them - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:33 AM EDT

Re: Because it's not supposed to be modified... - (JimWeirich) - Jan. 18, 2003, 10:58:42 PM EST

Re: const is a design error - (JimWeirich) - (13) - Jan. 17, 2003, 05:07:46 PM EST

Only if such differences exist - (tuberculosis) - (12) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:17:37 AM EDT

Fun in computing. - (static) - Jan. 18, 2003, 06:37:38 AM EST

Re: Only if such differences exist - (JimWeirich) - (10) - Jan. 18, 2003, 10:33:25 PM EST

const functions - (tuberculosis) - (9) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:28:10 AM EDT

Well, it doesnt' appear to be overloaded on const - (Simon_Jester) - (8) - Jan. 21, 2003, 01:53:21 PM EST

Re: Well, it doesnt' appear to be overloaded on const - (JimWeirich) - Jan. 21, 2003, 03:47:40 PM EST

No, thats exactly the problem - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:37:06 AM EDT

This is what bugs me in Scott's problem... - (Arkadiy) - (5) - Jan. 21, 2003, 05:42:24 PM EST

I was pissed enough at the problem - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Jan. 21, 2003, 09:43:01 PM EST

I was pissed enough that I: - (admin) - (3) - Jan. 21, 2003, 10:37:18 PM EST

Solution - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2003, 11:23:30 PM EST

ROFL - (admin) - Jan. 21, 2003, 11:24:50 PM EST

Re: "..you can make it swallow the code." Beautiful! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 22, 2003, 11:08:55 AM EST

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