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Post #74,186
by static
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1/12/03 9:27:40 PM
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New It's FUD, but there's an element of truth there.
I've little doubt that there are third-party ink fillers who don't care if the ink damages the printer. The APC article I mentioned had a picture, IIRC, of just such a damaged Epson print-head. However, some ink-fillers objected saying that they run extensive tests to make sure their ink doesn't damage the printer.

So who to believe? :-) Well, that's the UD of the FUD.

Wade.

Microsoft are clearly boiling the frogs.
Post #74,193
by ben_tilly
1/12/03 10:15:51 PM
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New A bigger element of truth than that
The printer makers do what they can to ensure breakage if you don't use their stuff. Often with success.

And then blame that breakage on the people who try to reverse engineer how things work. Often they succeed at that as well.

Kinda the same trick that Microsoft pulls...

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build
communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #74,297
by a6l6e6x
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1/13/03 2:41:51 PM
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New Re: "ensure breakage if you don't use their stuff"
My wife refilled a black Lexmark cartridge. It seemed to work OK for while and then declared itself dead with plenty of ink in it. I suspect Lexmark meters the flow and decides at some point that the cartridge must be carrying "evil fluids" and balks. The design policy is "Protect the revenue stream!".
Alex
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."\t-- Mark Twain
Post #74,349
by Ashton
1/13/03 9:12:56 PM
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New Time to hack that Smart Cartridge CMOS: Reset to 0 usage?
Post #74,353
by John Ashcroft
1/13/03 11:21:29 PM
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New Hmm... Gotta pay attention to this one.
Proposing violation of DMCA. He bears watching.
Post #74,355
by Ashton
1/13/03 11:41:42 PM
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New Norm, you're already on thin ice.
Post #74,357
by John Ashcroft
1/13/03 11:53:58 PM
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New So sorry, but thanks for playing!
Nope, not Norm this time. Ask Scott if you don't believe me.

Scott, you have permission to verify who I am from my account.

Besides, I think it's time we took you aside for some, erm, reeducation, homeland security style...
Post #74,544
by Ashton
1/14/03 9:25:02 PM
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New Oops.. I feel a need to repent, convert, move to Utah: die.
     Lexmark suing toner makers under the DMCA - (admin) - (15) - Jan. 9, 2003, 09:50:51 AM EST
         So... - (folkert) - Jan. 9, 2003, 10:31:05 AM EST
         Can't wait for the LH-thread M/Sloth spark plugs.. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 9, 2003, 08:00:02 PM EST
         They should be careful. - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2003, 12:11:48 AM EST
             An even better outcome - (jb4) - Jan. 10, 2003, 09:14:01 AM EST
         Creative. - (static) - (10) - Jan. 10, 2003, 06:21:44 AM EST
             Classic FUD: competitors' parts break HW - (kmself) - (9) - Jan. 11, 2003, 11:12:14 PM EST
                 Re: Classic FUD: competitors' parts break HW - (admin) - Jan. 12, 2003, 09:58:33 AM EST
                 It's FUD, but there's an element of truth there. - (static) - (7) - Jan. 12, 2003, 09:27:40 PM EST
                     A bigger element of truth than that - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Jan. 12, 2003, 10:15:51 PM EST
                         Re: "ensure breakage if you don't use their stuff" - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - Jan. 13, 2003, 02:41:51 PM EST
                             Time to hack that Smart Cartridge CMOS: Reset to 0 usage? -NT - (Ashton) - (4) - Jan. 13, 2003, 09:12:56 PM EST
                                 Hmm... Gotta pay attention to this one. - (John Ashcroft) - (3) - Jan. 13, 2003, 11:21:29 PM EST
                                     Norm, you're already on thin ice. -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 13, 2003, 11:41:42 PM EST
                                         So sorry, but thanks for playing! - (John Ashcroft) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2003, 11:53:58 PM EST
                                             Oops.. I feel a need to repent, convert, move to Utah: die. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 14, 2003, 09:25:02 PM EST

Thanks for playing!
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