Give a list of identifiable skills and and what you consider their value, and compare against electricians.
Also, make sure you list what each is allowed to do so they don't step into another's territory.
H-1B Reform / IT Union
- (JayMehaffey)
- (80)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 05:13:50 PM EST
should be IBEW INHO that would handle retirement
- (boxley)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 05:28:03 PM EST
Good point about nervousness of real AFL/CIO motives.
- (a6l6e6x)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 05:44:35 PM EST
Why? Labor is labor.
-NT
- (deSitter)
- (31)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 10:22:40 PM EST
Why what?
- (JayMehaffey)
- (30)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 11:04:42 PM EST
Better a bad union, than no union at all.
- (orion)
- (29)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 11:11:56 PM EST
imnsho, no union is a good union.
-NT
- (jbrabeck)
- (1)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 07:01:40 AM EST
Yup, let's go back to the days before unions.
- (imric)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 09:39:00 AM EST
Beg to differ.
- (hnick)
- (6)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 09:21:10 AM EST
I did it myself
- (orion)
- (5)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 01:43:13 PM EST
How about?
- (gdaustin)
- (4)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 10:16:55 AM EST
Yes I agree
- (orion)
- (3)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 02:43:29 PM EST
Dreamers....
- (gdaustin)
- (2)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:26:23 PM EST
A question for you
- (lincoln)
- (1)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:29:09 AM EST
Visit this website
- (orion)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:37:08 AM EST
My experiences with the Union
- (bluke)
- (19)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:14:24 AM EST
Duplicate post. @#$@#&% computer!
-NT
- (jbrabeck)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:20:24 AM EST
Similiar
- (jbrabeck)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:19:40 AM EST
Was it at least all the same union?
- (bbronson)
- (5)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:31:10 AM EST
reminds me of the storey between the Raj
- (boxley)
- (4)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 12:24:52 PM EST
Henry Ford
- (tuberculosis)
- (3)
- Jan. 7, 2003, 06:22:37 PM EST
Fucking OF COURSE!
- (deSitter)
- (2)
- Jan. 7, 2003, 07:45:56 PM EST
Prisoners dilema
- (tuberculosis)
- (1)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 03:44:00 AM EST
Nice Exposition of PD
- (deSitter)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 11:21:35 AM EST
Good examples
- (imric)
- (10)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 10:34:35 AM EST
Sanity at last - but..
- (deSitter)
- (9)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 11:42:55 AM EST
Empty?
- (imric)
- (7)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 01:02:50 PM EST
Re: Empty?
- (deSitter)
- (6)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 02:19:27 PM EST
Here
- (broomberg)
- (4)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 05:33:05 PM EST
BAHAHAHA
- (deSitter)
- (3)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 05:58:27 PM EST
Frog in the pot; works repeatedly via ego blindness
- (Ashton)
- (2)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:44:09 PM EST
Exactly
- (deSitter)
- (1)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:40:02 AM EST
'Shirking' not my point
- (imric)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 11:15:56 AM EST
The problem is imagining that Unions
- (imric)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:54:15 PM EST
At what cost???
- (bluke)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 03:28:01 AM EST
All it means to me
- (orion)
- Jan. 3, 2003, 11:09:17 PM EST
We beat this to death
- (broomberg)
- (11)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 12:35:48 PM EST
So? The issue keeps coming up
- (deSitter)
- (10)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 11:44:36 AM EST
Nahh
- (broomberg)
- (9)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 06:01:29 PM EST
Right!
- (deSitter)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 06:40:15 PM EST
Uh, I don't get this:
- (CRConrad)
- (7)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 06:43:13 PM EST
Yup
- (broomberg)
- (6)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 07:32:06 PM EST
So you're assuming the second category doesn't need a union?
-NT
- (CRConrad)
- (1)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 07:36:08 PM EST
Yup
- (broomberg)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 07:42:39 PM EST
Only if
- (JayMehaffey)
- (1)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:20:55 PM EST
But it's appropriate
- (broomberg)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:41:30 PM EST
Yup
- (deSitter)
- (1)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:36:37 PM EST
Try it
- (broomberg)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:44:47 PM EST
H1-B Problem Taking Care of Itself
- (gdaustin)
- (31)
- Jan. 4, 2003, 01:16:26 PM EST
Mostly cost pressure
- (bluke)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:06:55 AM EST
Wrong
- (deSitter)
- (21)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 11:48:10 AM EST
Is that really your dream?
- (Arkadiy)
- (19)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 03:00:37 PM EST
A dream shared
- (orion)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 03:04:24 PM EST
Re: Is that really your dream?
- (deSitter)
- (17)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 03:13:21 PM EST
Unions kill productivity in many ways
- (bluke)
- (15)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 03:45:17 AM EST
Bad example
- (broomberg)
- (14)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 06:38:21 AM EST
Duplicate post - ignore
-NT
- (bluke)
- (1)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:26:33 AM EST
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! sorry couldnt help it
- (boxley)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:36:09 AM EST
Not really ...
- (bluke)
- (11)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:18:12 AM EST
But remember this
- (orion)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:34:12 AM EST
You have the heart of it.
- (static)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 05:48:25 PM EST
Actually, there are ways around their rigid rules
- (tonytib)
- (8)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 09:21:05 PM EST
How about we split the difference
- (orion)
- (6)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 09:41:39 PM EST
Nice thought but unfeasible
- (hnick)
- (5)
- Jan. 7, 2003, 07:29:51 AM EST
Re: Nice thought but unfeasible
- (orion)
- (4)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 07:03:25 AM EST
Oh good, you mostly agree with me
- (hnick)
- (3)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 07:45:22 AM EST
Vote with your feet?
- (orion)
- (2)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 09:29:35 AM EST
Nothing is intolerable until you have a choice.
- (hnick)
- (1)
- Jan. 9, 2003, 07:17:20 AM EST
Re: Nothing is intolerable until you have a choice.
- (orion)
- Jan. 9, 2003, 09:23:59 AM EST
Yes, the word Union blinds to - the possibilities in '02+
-NT
- (Ashton)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:24:33 PM EST
Re: Is that really your dream?
- (Arkadiy)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:37:22 AM EST
But, Greed is good...
- (gdaustin)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:12:36 PM EST
I disagree. A compromise needed
- (tablizer)
- (7)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 06:42:58 PM EST
Re: I disagree. A compromise needed
- (gdaustin)
- (5)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:26:59 PM EST
And what if they really can do the job ...
- (bluke)
- (3)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 03:58:27 AM EST
One of the major development costs is communication overhead
- (ben_tilly)
- (2)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 08:35:36 AM EST
Believe me I know ...
- (bluke)
- (1)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 10:22:27 AM EST
Sounds like we are on the same page then
- (ben_tilly)
- Jan. 6, 2003, 02:47:59 PM EST
Corporate lying, not individuals
- (tablizer)
- Jan. 8, 2003, 02:27:44 AM EST
Your COBOL vs Java example is flawed
- (broomberg)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 08:36:30 PM EST
interesting note on HB1 my interview is with a HB1 supplier
- (boxley)
- Jan. 5, 2003, 09:39:32 PM EST