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New Well...
I discovered the IWE fora summer/winter 1997. So it's been 5 years for me.


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
New You came on board after I did... (Updated again)
I have all the "compiled info" for all the 130K of posts... but I don;t have the content anymore. DAM! Bill you got it somewhere?

I started at post 51591 on the old IWE at InfoWorld. Which I believe was Summer of 1996.
Peter you started at 88432.
Scott Anderson(as malraux) started 16961.
Christian was at 19598.
Addison Laurent (missed by not forgotten.. oops) enjoined at 25350 (added).
andread lashed out starting 10025 (added).
Ashton's first was 20536, but took a break until 57987... then WOW from there.
Arkadiy starts at 16826.
Andrew Grygus is getting 11167.
Bill Patient gets 28419.
One no longer with us... Ben Kosse started 38447. (moment of Silence Please!)
Bill Oxley: 29381.
BSD is Greater than YOU Boy! Brett Glass --> 1349
Barry Roomberg his rankness starts here 33650.
Bryce Jacobs(Brycej back then) started early... 24817
Cable.... shhh started at 4271, but dropped out by 61000
Craig Cottingham <----> 27149
ChrisR began at IWE Old by 64147
UberSoftMan cwbrenn ----> here be his starting point 19482.
David Jensen (he satill around posting???) 62604 (or 28645 as davidjensen).
Doug Loss one time poster....19278.
The (in)famous Doug Marker --- 33851.
Dan Reck being one of the earlier ones at 3405.
Drew Kime a latecomer starting at 117449.
Ross Lunsford (DRLunsford at the time) came in at 9381.
One more not with us ---- Ed Curry started in at 55887 ended ~102947. CURSE YOU MICROSOFT!!!!!
Gabriel (not been here I believe) 17993.
Glen Austin started fighting with us ~47878
Gene Mosher (viewtouch) late in the bag at 118671 (or 1133 as viewtouch).
hnick --- has been here quite a while too starting with 7426.
Skip started before some after a few, 12291.
The Real Inthane.... 18090.
Jay Mehaffey wandered into the fire-fight at 71262.
Mr Brabeck start shooting off on or about 24990.
Jeremey Allison (of Samba Fame) started at OLD IWE at 38442
JeremeyR started in at 10560
Jim Nuytens began his (something)ship here at 53587.
Golly kdenehy started at 6638 (where's he at?).
Khasim better known here as Brandioch, began feasting upon our silliness at 11087.
Good Ole Karsten M. Self(ish sometimes... ;) 65861.
Mr. Doug Larue started 1265.
L.A.M.,E. began ranting about his dam scretary at 62854.
Marlowe a late bloomer as well: 109777.
Maggs (err Maggie Biggs) came in somewhere near or at 84165.
Mike Huber being abused since(Aren't we all by Sir Psychlic?).... 27232.
Michel Merlin (our dear) started Shilling at 10815.
Mike Moffitt battling since 61383.
Mike Organek joined us heartily 50535.
Tom Nadeau (os2hq) into the Boycotting Standard at 19079.
papajoe unleashed his wit starting 45428.
Phil Kust (Where'd he go... I want im back here!) started Drinking and being merry at 1817.
rcsteiner dern fool... ;) began ranting at 3925.

The ever pleasant, ever charming Rick Moen began enlightening us at 60607.
Rob Nelson (ronelson) was thoroughly ensconced ther at 69406
rwrannells wow fergot about him... 10997
Sean Dugan... Testing Center tester for IW?! 5678
Shit For Brains (shifrbv) started insulting our intelligence at 9877.
Simon Jester started on 11432, took a break till 30710.
Darrell Spice started in zinging up things at 19327.
John Stainback *shrug* where to start?... he did here: 46506.
Steve O'Connor (steveoc) izzat the Aussie one? 11155 fer sure fer sure...
Goodness Ben Tilly (tilly back then) started late in the game there at 108509.
Tom Sinclair (remembered the his name!) chimed in at 49636.
Early in the fray Tood Blanchard being up by 6027.
Robert Brewer began his Job as Security Watchdog there ---> 44201.
TTChua (who this was ???) started at 12114.
valentine (think Greg Think!!!) 16120.
Rick "warlocke" Locke GRR... started pretty late 104801.
Wade Bowmer (static here, wbowmer there) started at 28805.
wharris started early too... 3896.
Yaztromo (Brad Barclay or just Yaz) started gettin wiggy with it at 1058.

Finally what was Fearless Freep's(Jay O'Connor's) nickname at the Old IWE anyone remember?

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
Expand Edited by gfolkertold Dec. 10, 2002, 07:58:16 AM EST
Expand Edited by gfolkertold Dec. 10, 2002, 10:48:18 AM EST
New I started earlier than that...
Look for anonymous posts signed by me. :-)

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
New Ahhh... I would but....
I somehow lost all the content in the DB I had it in. Musta somehow Dropped a table. Crap!

Bill, you got an Archive of it all? I'll send ya some Burnables... ;)

I used to have a file called zzraw.iw had everything in it in ISAM format. It's zero bytes now! Crapola... work to do!

Oh well.

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New Re: I started earlier than that...
I remember getting on your case about getting your own ID - think you were cypherpunks or something like that - man that's a few years ago, damn.
-drl
New I remember that too...
Ben kept saying I Will... I will!!!

Finally he DID... and we about fell over!

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New I thought Peter was cypherpunks?
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]


Opera was the television of the nineteenth century:loud, vulgar and garish with plots that could only be called infantile. "Pendergast"
New I was for a while.
Blimey, I'd forgotten about that :-)


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
New "cypherpunks/cypherpunks", like "iwethey/iwethey" but older.
*We* didn't come up with the generic-ID idea as a protest against overly-snooping site registration procedures, not by a long shot.

Sometimes site owners (or their Webmasters) deleted such generic IDs, but the "cypherpunk community" just created new ones... Turned into a battle of stamina -- each Webmaster on his own, against a HORDE of anonymous 'Net surfers; how would *you* think that turned out in the end?

That's why I said a while back that creating the "iwethey/iwethey" user ID on the NYT, for example, was unneccesary: I remember back on SleazyBoard how someone (Greg?) tipped us off to "cypherpunks4/cypherpunks(4?)"; when that didn't work any more, recently, I just incremented it to find out that "cypherpunks6/cypherpunks(6?)" still works.
   Christian R. Conrad
Mechanisation

As our souls are slowly stolen
The wheels of progress keep steamrolling
Mechanisation melts our minds
To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
New i have it...
...gotta find it...but I have it on a couple of disks (backups)

I thought I would have been a bit earlier...but could be I was lurking...I had been reading Brett and Nick for some time.

Really started posting when asked to poke my head in re: antitrust.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New I'd like to have a backup of it too...
Thought I did... Just scoured... nothing.

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New well...send me snail tracks...
...and you will.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Problem.
The file that I thought was the tar of the forums turns out to be Notes for Linux. Hey K...what did we end up calling that???

I hope I have a copy...although I know K dropped a few copies around on his trans-continental.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New I have one.
scottanderson(not greg)@comcast dot nyet

Anyone who wants a small, slim christmas present, let me know. :-) It's about 140M (IWE-archive.tar.gz).

Now I gotta go find some mailer sleeves...
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Soooo....
I gotta make the trek to Yur place?

Or do I have to pag and bleed?

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New Re: Soooo....
Just email me your address, knob. ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New pretty much my sentiments :-)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Can You Link it Here as a R/O Forum?
-drl
New No.
Would need permission from each poster in the archive to do so.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Problem....Phew...never mind.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Shit, I'm a newcomer.
But, where is Addison? Admittedly a few beers under my belt at this point, but I don't see him on your list.

Thanks! Reading that was a kick ;-)
New has it been that long?
your compilation was a good read...I too have full backup, if needed.
New steveoc_____ and the Ingrate Daze redux
[link|http://members.iweb.net.au/~steveoc/nice/index.html| Steve O'Connor ] from OZ, yes - he w/ the Linux computer built into his Porsche! - setting up Pizza? places using Linux early-on for POS (er.. Point of Sale this time). His site's a bit long in tooth.. wonder how he be? We traded a few e- techno missives re cars + power supplies vs noise filtering.

Alter-ego - the Immortal Jerry Lee Cooper, from the
Nations Institute for Computing Excellence!
Folksy faux M$-Shill-bot, what might pass the Turing test.. in Georgia, say.

Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle..

Kinda miss the humourless zealots - so ez to skewer in mid declension, even for us amateurs.. intermixed with the occasional computing-God who'd drop in for a bout of dismemberment..

Ah yes - there we were in full worldview.. a rippin and a rendin n'multilatin the cockamamie NT is the Future-World of the Suited Incoherent Ones atop the Infoworld Pyramid of Pretensiousness:

in their own Living Room / Forum for the masses!
What a $#&@ bunch o' ingrates wuz we all, dissecting editorials, dissin calyumnists.. :-) Then came The OS/2 Debacle.

(And the silly twits wouldn't even 'let' Scott, Ben et al? - fix their pre Y2K bollixed s/ware for ~free!) Masters O'Bizness, those Suits. OTOH - why Would they help prolong the Agony that wuz *US'ns* !



Ashton
who commuted initially via dialup from home --> local library Gen-U-Wine Web connection w/Lynx, before first ISP. Had to cut&paste to save anything to disk! But it were free.

Hmmm remember when ya had to write a script to run Trumpet Winsock? and ya had to cobble together an init string for yer modem thingie? (different for Each model) with SO=n and lots of tweaking just to get the Real connect speed to display? 14.4 == Hot Setup.
Expand Edited by Ashton Dec. 10, 2002, 03:53:28 AM EST
New don't recall when it was
but wow, # 19327.

os2hq is probably Tom Nadeau, he writes the [link|http://www.os2hq.com/|The Warped Perspective]. Consider his first post at 19079, cwbrenn's at 19482 and mine, there must have been some OS/2 related article that attracted us to their site.

Darrell Spice, Jr.

[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

New Are you KIDDING us???
Spicey reminisces:
os2hq is probably Tom Nadeau, he writes the [link|http://www.os2hq.com/|The Warped Perspective].
Yes, I think he actually said so a few times.


Consider his first post at 19079, cwbrenn's at 19482 and mine, there must have been some OS/2 related article that attracted us to their site.
Uuhh... Only the BIGGEST FUCKING SCANDAL EVER in the history of InfoWorld; an incident that makes the Exclusion fiasco look like Windows 95's market introduction...

Don't the words "Reader's Choice" mean *anything* to you any more?

(Oh, I see: You must have suppressed the memory! :-)
   Christian R. Conrad
Mechanisation

As our souls are slowly stolen
The wheels of progress keep steamrolling
Mechanisation melts our minds
To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
New FF, not N
;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Uh, wha'??? Sorry, I don't get it.
New Re: Uh, wha'??? Sorry, I don't get it.
Flame OFF, not Flame ON... ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Ah, I see. But I wasn't flaming...
...anybody, was I? (Not anybody *here*, anyway -- Sandy Reed doesn't count!)

Didn't mean to, at least... Hope I didn't hurt your feelings, Spicey?
   Christian R. Conrad
Mechanisation

As our souls are slowly stolen
The wheels of progress keep steamrolling
Mechanisation melts our minds
To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
New j/k :-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Well then, that is an Exact date for sure...
Tells us right *ABOUT* when OS/2 lovers stuffed the ballot box. And a few joined the frey (fray? Freigh?)

About sums it up.

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New [slaps head] Why didn't I think of this before
I'm about to go check if the Wayback Machine captured the running totals of the voting up to the time they pulled the plug.
===
Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
New Ultra-Cool idea! (Why didn't I? Why didn't *anybody*???)
New What a shock
According to [link|http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://infoworld.com|this]:
We're sorry, access to [link|http://infoworld.com|http://infoworld.com] has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

They helpfully [link|http://web.archive.org/web/infoworld.com/robots.txt|provide] a copy of that file:
# robots.txt for [link|http://www2.infoworld.com/|http://www2.infoworld.com/]
# do not delete this file, contact gordon or brooks for edits

User-agent: Googlebot
Disallow: /servlet/

User-agent: Googlebot-for-IDG
Disallow: /servlet/

User-agent: Ultraseek/IDG
Disallow: /servlet/

User-agent:*
Disallow: /

But while looking, I did find [link|http://www.os2hq.com/archives/arch17.htm|this], from a former IWE regular I believe.
===
Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
New ~May 1997, IIRC(?). (And it's "fray", BTW - HTH! :-)
New No, I believe May of 1996...
And I knew fray, I was just being ummm Me?!

I came in after Sandy Reed Had Annouced this to the world and gotten all the justification she needed to show it as a fraud. I believe it was actually Ed Foster and an E-Mail to his Gripe Column on "Software Quality" does it do what they say it does? or something of the like. I think it was the first one of that blend he did.

He specifically invited me to join the discussion he was sponsoring. I never really did say anything until I flamed Ross, and he flamed me back about me being an "Anally Retentive" System Admin. And he'd find a way around MY stuff if he worked where I did.

But, I can see things have changed... err well maybe not... I'm still Anally retentive... Judge Ross fer your self! We are all alot of fun here. I still get a big kick out of CRC, malraux, Bryce (yes I like beating someone who keeps coming back)... Beep, BOFH, and so on.

It makes me smile thinking about the wonderful "discussions" we've had in the past about things, Religion, Theology, Mathematics, Technology, Politics, Suppression of Innovation, blah blah blah.

I really missed these people we call IWETHEY, after I gave up on Sleazyboard. BTW, I STILL get e-mail from them. My 3 year account I used twice (well maybe more) still is there. I changed the e-mail address wayback when).

So to us all, we are definately a group that is dysfunctionally together. ;)

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New Naah...? I didn't have 'Net access yet, in 1996!
New Okies... Maybe I am guessing wrong then.
When I get content... we'll see, that your probably right.

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]


Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the (county)Photographer!

Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies".

Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query:
SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\
  WHERE ego < 1048575;
0 rows found
New I've read IW long before that scandal
hardcopy and online. With my BBS background, I doubt my first forum usage at IW was the scandal.

Darrell Spice, Jr.

[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

New I also have a copy on 2 CD's. 1 DVD soon. :)
Alas, it's at home. Gimme a few hours.

Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance -
Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation.
BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
New I've been lurking since day 1
Started reading IW paper back in Russia (that was before 1994).
--

We have only 2 things to worry about: That
things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.
     To All - (deSitter) - (48)
         Hey, we *need* you around here... - (CRConrad)
         Migawd.. that would mean - (Ashton)
         Just a thought. - (mmoffitt) - (45)
             Well... - (pwhysall) - (40)
                 You came on board after I did... (Updated again) - (folkert) - (39)
                     I started earlier than that... - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                         Ahhh... I would but.... - (folkert)
                         Re: I started earlier than that... - (deSitter) - (4)
                             I remember that too... - (folkert)
                             I thought Peter was cypherpunks? -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                 I was for a while. - (pwhysall)
                                 "cypherpunks/cypherpunks", like "iwethey/iwethey" but older. - (CRConrad)
                     i have it... - (bepatient) - (10)
                         I'd like to have a backup of it too... - (folkert) - (9)
                             well...send me snail tracks... - (bepatient)
                             Problem. - (bepatient) - (7)
                                 I have one. - (admin) - (5)
                                     Soooo.... - (folkert) - (4)
                                         Re: Soooo.... - (admin) - (3)
                                             pretty much my sentiments :-) -NT - (bepatient)
                                             Can You Link it Here as a R/O Forum? -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 No. - (admin)
                                 Re: Problem....Phew...never mind. -NT - (bepatient)
                     Shit, I'm a newcomer. - (mmoffitt)
                     has it been that long? - (slugbug)
                     steveoc_____ and the Ingrate Daze redux - (Ashton)
                     don't recall when it was - (SpiceWare) - (15)
                         Are you KIDDING us??? - (CRConrad) - (14)
                             FF, not N - (admin) - (4)
                                 Uh, wha'??? Sorry, I don't get it. -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                     Re: Uh, wha'??? Sorry, I don't get it. - (admin) - (2)
                                         Ah, I see. But I wasn't flaming... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                             j/k :-) -NT - (admin)
                             Well then, that is an Exact date for sure... - (folkert) - (7)
                                 [slaps head] Why didn't I think of this before - (drewk) - (2)
                                     Ultra-Cool idea! (Why didn't I? Why didn't *anybody*???) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         What a shock - (drewk)
                                 ~May 1997, IIRC(?). (And it's "fray", BTW - HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                     No, I believe May of 1996... - (folkert) - (2)
                                         Naah...? I didn't have 'Net access yet, in 1996! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                             Okies... Maybe I am guessing wrong then. - (folkert)
                             I've read IW long before that scandal - (SpiceWare)
                     I also have a copy on 2 CD's. 1 DVD soon. :) - (tseliot)
                     I've been lurking since day 1 - (Arkadiy)
             Nearly 5 for me -NT - (ben_tilly)
             Hmm... - (inthane-chan)
             I didn't hang around at IWE - (Meerkat)
             mid 99 for me I think - (Steve Lowe)

"It grew, as the sum of a lot of separate people's ad-hockery, most of those by people who had no idea what they were doing, and would gladly pound screws with a hammer all year long, for lack of acquaintance with the concept of screwdrivers." - Rick Moen
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