Re: No really relevant..

Post #66,320 by deSitter 12/3/02 12:48:54 AM Reply	Re: No really relevant.. I said - it could not be done unless you had an NDA with MS. Now, why is this important? Let's say you get a laptop with XP preinstalled. You fire it up, XP installs itself, and now you cannot install Linux unless you buy a piece of software that pays yet another MS tax - that is, YOU pay it. So, you install Linux FIRST, and do the resizing, before XP gets its shots in. Even then you have a big hda1 that Linux cannot read/write. Not a good setup. -drl
Post #66,323 by pwhysall 12/3/02 12:53:25 AM Reply	So? Don't buy a computer with Windows on it, then. Windows can't read/write your reiserfs partitions either, but you're not bitching about that. I repeat: if you're running Windows, "open" is just a word to describe a door that's not closed. It's certainly got nothing to do with your computer. This is not a comment about the quality of either Windows or Linux - it's just an observation. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #66,750 by kmself 12/4/02 6:32:31 PM Reply	Resierfs access from NT/XP Google for "reiser4win", there's a tool which provide read-only access from Windows. There are also ext2fs file manglers offering access to ext2 (and presumably ext3) filesystems. --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
Post #66,765 by folkert 12/4/02 8:21:55 PM Reply	Betchya can guess what I'm gonna say... [link\|http://p-nand-q.com/e/reiserfs.html\|Reiser4Win is now --> RFSTOOL] [link\|http://www.it.fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/software/ltools.htm\|LTOOLS for Windows RW access for Ext2] Some older docs at [link\|http://penguin.cz/~mhi/fs/\|File-Systems HOWto] I like this [link\|http://www.penguin.cz/~mhi/mbtmgr/\|MATTsoft Boot Manager], haven't used it yet... but working on it. `[link\|mailto:curley95@attbi.com\|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!] Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds: Use your computer, we'll sample your DNA and imprint your eyes. SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR WHERE ego < 1048575; 0 rows found`
Post #66,332 by bepatient 12/3/02 1:10:46 AM 12/3/02 1:12:32 AM Reply	No...you didn't. You said flatly it couldn't be done. NTFS also changes at a whim, can't be resized, and still after all these years has only beta support r/w. Now you've invented this MS tax thing. If you are running windows (which you obviously are)...then why the fuck are you bitching about the Windows tax. PM is a utility that everyone should have. ESPECIALLY if you are installing multiple operating systems. I don't give a shit where their money goes..as long as it has the fitness of purpose for which I paid...which it does...many times over. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient] Edited by bepatient Dec. 3, 2002, 01:12:32 AM EST Expand All History
Post #66,371 by n3jja 12/3/02 7:58:34 AM Reply	Ab-so-fraggin-lutely! PM is a utility that everyone should have. ESPECIALLY if you are installing multiple operating systems. Nog that shit! I wouldn't be without it. I don't give a shit where their money goes..as long as it has the fitness of purpose for which I paid...which it does...many times over. You've actually PAID for yours? You're hanging out in the wrong places. (wink, wink; nudge, nudge)
Post #66,382 by bepatient 12/3/02 9:57:33 AM Reply	There are some things... ...for which I will pay. PM is one. Virus updates for Norton AV is another. I hang out in those places...but usually only get Microsoft products there ;-) stylewhack n3jja You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,385 by deSitter 12/3/02 10:16:13 AM Reply	Re: There are some things... Well, if I were in play mode I'd need a copy - but all I needed was a one-time divvy of my disk for 2k, 98, and Linux. Why spend $100 for a one-shot operation? -drl
Post #66,399 by bepatient 12/3/02 11:02:56 AM Reply	Simple And this happens to my multi-boot machines all the time... At some point the work involved on one of the partitions may become storage intensive...at which point PM allows you to reduce one partitions size and expand anothers...my laptop sees this activity on a regular basis...where I recently needed a dos only environment for a project (needed to reinstall and run a legacy reporting package) ...created the partition...installed dos and all necessary files...and did so in minutes. This was work related...not play...and the flexibility that PM allows and the time it saves is well worth every penny I have ever paid to Powerquest. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,401 by deSitter 12/3/02 11:08:40 AM Reply	Whatever I'll never be part of the Collective, it seems. I'm often amazed at how often being wrong seems to infect more or less everyone in more or less the same way. -drl
Post #66,404 by bepatient 12/3/02 11:17:34 AM Reply	Relax man... ...I've been a walking advertisement for PartitionMagic since the utility was released. Just trying to show you how useful that investment (or lack thereof in Jim's case) can be. You didn't see utility in paying for a one-off (you could ask Jim where >those< places are ;-) ) and I can absolutley respect that...but I find the thing so damned useful that I thought I could point out another use that may make acquiring a copy useful for you. There are less than half a dozen software applications that have ever made that "must have current at all times" list with me. PM is one of them. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,406 by admin 12/3/02 11:23:27 AM Reply	Soooo..... PM is one of them. So you're saying you aren't troubled by Partition Magic's Success...? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #66,409 by n3jja 12/3/02 11:26:19 AM Reply	chuckle
Post #66,430 by bepatient 12/3/02 12:56:07 PM Reply	what are you laughing at ??? :-) navarone n3jja You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,432 by n3jja 12/3/02 1:01:46 PM 12/3/02 1:02:38 PM Reply	mauser bepatient Which is most appropriate considering the French comment made elsewhere. ROFL Edited by n3jja Dec. 3, 2002, 01:02:38 PM EST Expand All History
Post #66,408 by n3jja 12/3/02 11:25:37 AM Reply	Now just a minute.... I've been a walking advertisement for PartitionMagic since the utility was released. SHILL!!! SHILL!!! (Well if was good enough for Peter...... ;-P) Just trying to show you how useful that investment (or lack thereof in Jim's case) can be. Watch it! I resemble that remark.... ;-) stylewhack2 bepatient
Post #66,395 by n3jja 12/3/02 10:50:43 AM Reply	whackamole bepatient There are some things... ...for which I will pay. PM is one. I don't since they abandoned HPFS. Call it a mild form of protest, if you like. Virus updates for Norton AV is another. I pay for those because my "significant other" is heavily dependent on The Beast, but personally I don't use NAV (no current version that runs on OS/2, even if I were to run any AV on OS/2 in the first place (which I don't)). I'm not booted into Winders enough to justify running NAV and I certainly don't have anything on that partition that I can't restore in 2 hours or less (probably more like 1 hour).
Post #66,445 by andread 12/3/02 3:21:08 PM Reply	free AV why not go to [link\|http://www.grisoft.com\|Free AV s/w] and get this for your sig. other Can't beat the price and it can be set to update automatically A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #66,461 by bepatient 12/3/02 5:42:01 PM Reply	Cool.... ...thanks. Hows the overhead? You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,607 by andread 12/4/02 10:10:37 AM Reply	Re: Cool.... uses about 2 megs when it loads but inches up if you run the scans every nite and of course scan all email to maybe 8-9 megs A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #66,637 by bepatient 12/4/02 11:54:53 AM 12/4/02 11:55:24 AM Reply	A little heavier than NAV... ...but cheaper by far ;-) I'll give it a head to head on home machines...see what happens. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient] Edited by bepatient Dec. 4, 2002, 11:55:24 AM EST Expand All History

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