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New No, the best argument against the Turing Test is Usenet
Turing test is only a measure of linguistic compatibility. We can learn new words, but that's not the same as a new language. We can learn new grammar, but that's not the same as context. With sufficiently different context, *anyone* could fail a Turing test. Test an Aborigine via a text-only interface and I doubt he would "pass."
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New Don't You Need Numbers?
The Hopi Indians had only three numbers - one, two, and many.

Somehow this entire Turing thing seems hokey to me. In any case reality obeys the principle of complementarity and the superposition principle, and that can't be modeled as 1s and 0s since there is an inherently statistical element.

New Well purl passed the IRC test a long time ago
Infobots have for several years been good enough to fool people into believing that they were just helped out by a real person.

But yes, maintaining a coherent Usenet personality that looks somewhat normal would take some real work. Either that or it would act like Ashton.

Speaking of which, Ashton, are you real...? :-)

Cheers,
Ben
New How 'bout the magical Frenchman?
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New unReal.. but real-enough for Govt. Work. merely the facade
Precisely as one ranks the other artifacts within the daily illusion we generate, on 'awakening'. And call those 'real'.

('You', of course would disappear were 'I' to disappear)

Now as to the Real, I could only say tha

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     Hal is born - (DonRichards) - (18)
         Halfway there. - (tseliot) - (3)
             You should also look at the Cog project, then... - (neelk) - (2)
                 Fascinating - (deSitter)
                 Thanks! Cursory view looks promising... -NT - (tseliot)
         Hal, shmal - (wharris2) - (3)
             Why so hostile? - (DonRichards) - (2)
                 Just the hype - (wharris2) - (1)
                     But it doesn't say that - (DonRichards)
         Validity of the Turing Test? - (ChrisR) - (9)
             Good points - (DonRichards)
             The best argument against the Turing Test is Eliza -NT - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                 No, the best argument against the Turing Test is Usenet - (drewk) - (4)
                     Don't You Need Numbers? - (deSitter)
                     Well purl passed the IRC test a long time ago - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         How 'bout the magical Frenchman? -NT - (drewk)
                         unReal.. but real-enough for Govt. Work. merely the facade - (Ashton)
             Re: Fooling the Turing Test - (tablizer) - (1)
                 Yep, Turing specified - (mhuber)

I swear, you make people want to jump into a volcano.
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