Post #63,906
11/19/02 9:24:02 PM
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Casualty of OOP
Found in my inbox:
Thanks for the interesting web site. I gave up programming for a living about 5 years ago, because it was becoming obvious that everyone wanted OOP, and I wanted nothing to do with it. The claims made were ludicrous, and the paradigm seemed hopelessly stretched to fit any of my usual business-type applications. And worst of all, I couldn't make use of any of my vast libraries of reusable functions and subroutines; they all would have to be recoded into objects. Reuse of code is a matter of good programming, not an invention of OOP! I also expect the massive amount of code-bloat we see today is because programmers are unwilling to touch old objects, since they are unable to decipher what they are doing. At least with p/r, you had a chance of following the logic of a program. Until the pendulum swings back the other way, things are only going to get worse.
David [M]
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Post #63,907
11/19/02 9:29:24 PM
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love this!
I also expect the massive amount of code-bloat we see today is because programmers are unwilling to touch old objects, since they are unable to decipher what they are doing. now that doesnt bother me but I am a debugger type not a coder and expect to crawl into stuff to see why it isnt working or (re)code around it. For you mainstream programming folks, does the above quote ring true? Inquiring minds want to know. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
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Post #63,912
11/19/02 9:40:53 PM
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I, for one, have disassembled ROMs to figure out
what the hell was going on with no idea of how the code was originally generated (i.e. reverse engineered stuff).
Alex
"Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these."\t-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
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Post #63,922
11/19/02 10:30:58 PM
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yabut yer not a computer scientist are you?
you dont write ASP and VB for a living so dont know any better. :-) like I should talk, applied for a Visual Foxpro position today, shudder.
thanx,
bill
who liked foxpro for nix
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Post #64,081
11/20/02 1:36:43 PM
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I do have an MS in Computer Science.
Alex
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Post #64,083
11/20/02 1:38:22 PM
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Im sorry, I thought you were EE path,
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Post #64,106
11/20/02 3:13:23 PM
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Have BS :) in EE.
Alex
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Post #64,144
11/20/02 5:41:41 PM
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there I knew you were smarter than BSCS
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Post #64,411
11/21/02 10:07:24 PM
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Well... That's not hard..
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Post #64,077
11/20/02 1:09:36 PM
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Re: Casualty of OOP
I also expect the massive amount of code-bloat we see today is because programmers are unwilling to touch old objects, since they are unable to decipher what they are doing.
Kind of like that massive amount of code-bloat in procedural code becauase programmers are unwilling to touch old subroutines, since they are unable to decipher what they are doing...
Regards,
John Urberg
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Post #64,084
11/20/02 1:43:16 PM
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Fitting in this case
...since the main reason given for foregoing programming is that he doesn't want to touch all those old subroutines and functions that he wrote umpteen years ago.
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Post #64,585
11/22/02 11:24:12 PM
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I prefer spehgetti p/r to spehgetti OO
True consultants can write crappy code (job security) using ANY paradigm.
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Post #64,600
11/23/02 12:11:07 AM
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WHAT ABOUT THE HAMSTER? DID YOU LOOK FOR IT?
-drl
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Post #64,617
11/23/02 5:24:19 AM
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spaghetti, you illiterate goon.
Kindly constrain your language-rape to English, s'il vous plait.
Peter
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Post #64,631
11/23/02 9:17:49 AM
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talk to a commercial cook its spag, one order of spag up!!
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Post #64,634
11/23/02 11:50:49 AM
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Well, you illitterate moron, then it's NOT spehg, now is it?
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Post #64,644
11/23/02 1:42:24 PM
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I'm astonished....
I didn't think trailer parks would support a decent Italian eatery...
Kitchens I've been in had different kinds of starch. Sauces were numbered in a couple though.
You can fill our a menu by using variants of a sauce on different macaroni or by switching sides.
*GOOD* places actually have varying specials dependent on availabilty of ingredients, and use different pastas for filler.
I've never been asked for "spag up" in my life. God but I must be so sheltered...
Oh well...
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Post #64,665
11/23/02 8:25:39 PM
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denny's, IHOP and other fine dining establishments
boilup a 5 gallon pail of noodles then rinse to get the startch out. The spag sauce and the taco sauce is the same except you hit the taco sauce with seasoning before nuking hand into noodles place on plate, then ladle sauce on top.A quick zap and fine eytie food is ready for serving.
thanx,
bill
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"Have Thumbs Will Travel"
Customised Asphyxiations
No Gullet Too Big, No Weasand Too small
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Post #67,055
12/6/02 1:15:36 AM
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Don't bash trailer parks because
I might have to live in one soon. I think I will paste a giant image of my college degree on one side and my honor certificate on the other. (It was not awarded for spelling I wud note.)
On a bright note, it is easier to track hamsters in one.
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