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I was responding to the Christian tale that Jesus Christ's suffering redeems us.

I find nothing redeeming in pain and suffering.

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
New shoot and I have new glasses too!
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"Therefore, by objective standards, the leading managers of the U.S. economy...are collectively, clinically insane."
Lyndon LaRouche
     redemption read les miserable - (boxley) - (23)
         OT great now one button increases my post count by 2!!! -NT - (boxley)
         Just to supply the orthodox counterpoint - (tseliot) - (21)
             no gain no pain :-) -NT - (boxley)
             Sorry you feel that it needs to be earned by pain - (ben_tilly) - (19)
                 I think you misunderstood my thought. - (boxley) - (2)
                     Check who I was responding to - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         shoot and I have new glasses too! -NT - (boxley)
                 (un)raveling the threads - (tseliot) - (15)
                     I thought it was pretty straightforward - (ben_tilly) - (14)
                         Good link. - (static) - (3)
                             Ah. I am a character, aren't I? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 Well, yes. - (static) - (1)
                                     That fits - (ben_tilly)
                         Suffering can provide clarity - (ChrisR) - (6)
                             Absolutely - (deSitter)
                             Re: Suffering can provide clarity - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                 Not sure - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                     I've found useful a certain distinction between - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         I think it depends upon the point of view. - (Brandioch)
                             Inthane is right - we don't necessarily differ by that much - (ben_tilly)
                         Well, that wasn't the point. - (tseliot) - (2)
                             Ah... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                 I have a lot of respect for uncomfortable philo :) -NT - (tseliot)

That is not actually a charming anecdote!
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