You just confirmed that you are a liar

Post #59,828 by ben_tilly 10/28/02 7:15:31 AM Reply	You just confirmed that you are a liar Again. By not keeping your word about staying away. Why am I not surprised? And don't bother damning me to Hell. You did it rather eloquently on the mailing list already. Without, apparently, learning from what I said. Regards, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #59,834 by Ashton 10/28/02 7:58:10 AM Reply	I wonder if we can muster any consensus to bite tongue. It's all been said, repeatedly and via many angles from abject sentimentality on through unnecessary rage. IMhO. He is unable to hear or at least - to digest. Perhaps this is the only place he dare vent. Even if many do not wish to receive the effluent in faces. Fair game for twitting? I think not at all. Silence is neutral. Excoration is Attention. And I believe that IT is the worst place possible for someone to deal with this illness and also attempt to make a living - while inoperative. There is the least humanity available: when one has become a commodity item to the Rulers - who clearly are most comfortable with dehumanizing the workplace for legions of ordinary people just like themselves. ('Ordinary' but with duller claws and some remaining decency, despite the daily provocations.) Ashton Not every truth is the better for showing its face undistinguished; and often silence is the wisest course for a man to pursue. Pindar
Post #59,855 by bepatient 10/28/02 10:16:46 AM Reply	Doubtful Methinks wolf has been cried once too often. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #59,910 by Ashton 10/28/02 3:26:04 PM Reply	{sigh} So be it.
Post #59,921 by bepatient 10/28/02 3:57:21 PM Reply	One would like to believe there is... ...hope. Maybe, possibly. I don't think anyone here wishes anyone harm (with limited exception...not related to norm/orion/cable)... Patience is a virtue that can only be stretched so far... You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #60,136 by orion 10/29/02 11:58:34 PM Reply	Shows how much you know ask Ben Tilly why he hates me so much and wishes me dead? *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,169 by bepatient 10/30/02 8:32:53 AM Reply	Shows how much you over-react. He doesn't. The only one here who seems to wish you harm is yourself. Ben is sick of the game you are playing...and probably because he has seen way too much from folks who weren't >playing<. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #60,366 by ben_tilly 10/30/02 11:51:49 PM Reply	Give that man a gold star! "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #60,971 by orion 11/4/02 4:49:23 AM Reply	I am not playing I can prove it, but nobody wants to check the facts. Nobody is interested in the truth, they are more concerned with their own interests and in trying to frame me for something I didn't do. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,178 by CRConrad 10/30/02 10:00:59 AM Reply	Now you're lying AGAIN!!! Whine, whine: ask Ben Tilly why he hates me so much and wishes me dead? I dare you to show me the link to the post where he said that. You won't find one, because he never did -- this is just you LYING again. (Now, if you were to ask me, on the other hand...) Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #60,972 by orion 11/4/02 4:50:30 AM Reply	No I am not he implied it many times. I told him in email that if he wishes me dead, to keep on talking trash about me, if he wants me alive to leave me alone. But he kept on talking trash about me, so what does that prove? *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #59,935 by hnick 10/28/02 6:26:38 PM Reply	Doesn't have to be. First: I have no way of knowing how sick or what his underlying motives are. I am reasonably certain that I don't want to play any more. That said, I am equally uncertain that shunning or similar is useful either. I would suggest that 'normal' behavior be responded to in 'normal' fashion. Around here 'normal' gives a fair amount of leeway to make a jackass of ones self without undue comment. The games we are sick of, suicide threats, blustering accusations, and such which are now suspected of being role playing, should be COMPLETELY ignored. Such crap should not be rewarded with any recognition whatsoever. This would reward him for being 'socially sane', if such a concept is realistic, and costs little in the way of overhead when he is being boink-brained. Mind, this is said without knowledge of what he has done to the twiki board, although I noted that a number of his accounts were deleted. I also don't know about the 'mailing list' and whatever went/goes on there. Additional protection may be necessary there... Personally, I would prefer to err on the side of generosity and free society. This does not mean that I am willing to play stupid games. I am willing to ignore a fair amount though... sometimes, around here, you have to... my .02.. <insert something nasty, cause this is the flame forum...>
Post #59,937 by Ashton 10/28/02 6:37:26 PM Reply	You stupid jackass.. Making generous comments in.. The War Room, Mr. Russky Ambassador? General Turgidson, you know what to do - ie. ditto on that. Reward sanity. Ignore the rest. What's to lose..
Post #60,073 by slugbug 10/29/02 3:36:37 PM Reply	Agree...what an idiot! To post something so positive here :) I have to agree, however, that it is not worth the energy to reply/respond to such behavior and that is why I have not. He has to get it together on his own and when we respond we only encourage him not to do so. My $.02 Slugbug
Post #60,138 by orion 10/30/02 12:01:56 AM Reply	The stop it! Leave me alone and I won't have to keep coming back here. How much more simpler can I make it? *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,177 by CRConrad 10/30/02 9:58:29 AM Reply	Learn to fucking READ, you goddamn idiot! Maggie's post above was agreeing with ASHTON, that HUGH (hnick) was "being an idiot" for being so positive (TOWARDS YOU, you utter fuckwit!) in here. This was an ironic way of waying that it was nice of Hugh to be so NICE to you, seeing as how it was in here in the Flame forum, an' all. Trust you not to get the point, but to whine and scream when people are being NICE to you. Oh, and your: Leave me alone and I won't have to keep coming back here. If you didn't keep coming back here, you wouldn't KNOW anybody here was talking about you, would you? And what you don't know can't hurt you, so... just piss the heck off and trust us not to talk about you. (As a matter of fact, I don't think anybody DID before YOU posted here again... But that doesn't matter, because if someone did -- if only you'd staid away like you promised, you wouldn't know.) How much more simpler can I make it? "Piss off, and STAY off!" -- how's THAT for "more simpler"? Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #60,179 by drewk 10/30/02 10:01:20 AM Reply	CRC and BeeP and whoever else, request Please don't feed the negative behavior. Encourage constructive posts if you want to, but please just ignore the stuff designed to generate a response. It only feeds the cycle. === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #60,974 by orion 11/4/02 4:54:21 AM Reply	You learn to understand and be more compassionate I have other people reading this forum and emailing me when I am talked about. One of them is Boxley, who apparently tells me whenever someone here accuses me of something. I won't mention the others, but some are in the St. Louis Area and are concerned about me and are reading but not posting. The only way you will be rid of me is if I die. I have said that many times. I may take a vacation from here once in a while, and while I may try to stay away, you guys always seem to do something to make me come back like falsely accuse me of something, or create some bogus user or post and then demand that I come back and defend myself after you accuse me of doing it. If you want me to live, treat me more kindly. If you want me to die, keep talking trash about me and keep accusing me of those things you keep accusing me of. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #61,033 by boxley 11/4/02 2:58:43 PM Reply	horseshit norm One of them is Boxley, who apparently tells me whenever someone here accuses me of something I emailed you to let you know that jledbetter posted only to 2 posts attacking those who had a disagreement with you. I also said he had YOUR posting style. Never did I say that people were accusing you of anything. Dont pull me into this at all. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Money for jobs? No first you get the job, then you get the money" Raimondo
Post #60,137 by orion 10/30/02 12:00:36 AM Reply	That makes two of us apparently I don't know how sick or what my underlying motives are? I didn't even know that I had motives, I thought I was just being reactionary to having my feelings hurt for the past two years by you people? *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,135 by orion 10/29/02 11:57:47 PM Reply	I am the wolf the illness has eaten me up and become a part of me. Like a cancer it continued to grow while my doctors were unable or unwilling to stop it from spreading. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,134 by orion 10/29/02 11:56:03 PM Reply	I am a liar because I told my son that there was a Santa Claus. Who here hasn't told a lie in some way, shape, or form? I wanted to stay away, really, but you couldn't stop messing with me, could you? You lied yourself, many times. Ignore him, stop giving him attention. But that was a lie by you wasn't it? If it was true, then you'd obviously stop responding to my posts and stop talking about me and other things related to me. The existance of this thread proves that beyond a reasonable doubt. You also said that you didn't care about me, but obviously you do care somewhat, or else you wouldn't be post about it. If you don't care, then stop talking about me, stop calling me on the phone, stop sending me email, and stop trying to frame me for something I didn't do. I said I would go away and quit, but you didn't keep your end of the deal so back here I am. Happy with yourself yet? *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #60,186 by CRConrad 10/30/02 10:24:17 AM Reply	Yes, you are, but that's not your real problem. The real problem is that you're a STUPID, BORING, WHINY liar. Come back when you've corrected THOSE problems, and you'll be welcome... But unless and until you do that, your welcome is worn out. because I told my son that there was a Santa Claus. Who here hasn't told a lie in some way, shape, or form? Ah, but: Who here has whined, and shown off his stupidity, and whined, and shown off his stupidity, and then whined and shown off his stupidity and whined some more, for AT LEAST the last two years? Only you. I wanted to stay away, really, but you couldn't stop messing with me, could you? WHAT AN _U_T_T_E_R_ FUCKING (STUPID!) LIE!!! How the FUCK would you find out that somoeone had been "messing with" you, if you didn't come back FIRST??? Oh _Ghod_, how stupid you must be, to write such a totally revealing line! Are you such a moron that you don't even SEE what a moron you are?!? You lied yourself, many times. Ignore him, stop giving him attention. But that was a lie by you wasn't it? If it was true, then you'd obviously stop responding to my posts and stop talking about me and other things related to me. The existance of this thread proves that beyond a reasonable doubt. You also said that you didn't care about me, but obviously you do care somewhat, or else you wouldn't be post about it. If you don't care, then stop talking about me, stop calling me on the phone, stop sending me email, and stop trying to frame me for something I didn't do. What the fuck are you blithering about?!? Hey, no, know what? Don't reply to that -- I don't even want to know, any more. All I want is my peace -- peace from YOUR CONSTANT STUPID WHINING. So just piss off, please. And stay off. I said I would go away and quit, Yup, that's exactly what you did. But that's all -- there were no conditions attached, at the time. but you didn't keep your end of the deal WHAT bloody "your end of the deal"?!? There WAS NO "deal"!!! You just said you'd (finally!) go away, but... so back here I am. Yes indeed. And that's the problem. Happy with yourself yet? A better question (not that I can find it in me to care about the answer, any more) would be, are YOU happy with YOURself, yet? If not, what the fuck makes you think you'll come any closer to "happiness" by making everybody ELSE JUST AS MISERABLE, with YOUR CONSTANT STUPID WHINING??? (Same drill: Don't reply to that -- I don't even want to know.) Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
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