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New Re: What reports?
[link|http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2002/2/8/1s.html|http://www.nti.org/d.../2002/2/8/1s.html]

While a connection between an Iraqi intelligence official and a key member of al-Qaeda was confirmed prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, the intelligence community has not, at least yet, indicated it has found evidence of Iraqi support for the group\ufffds terror operations


[link|http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2002/3/19/2s.html|http://www.nti.org/d...2002/3/19/2s.html]

Kurdish officials said Hussein\ufffds regime has had ties to al-Qaeda since 1992


Its not religion, bozo...its documented.

And its not Osama to Sadam...its Iraq to Al-Q. I don't expect Sadam and Osama would be sharing to many beers at the corner bar.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New And there you go again, again.
From the sites you linked:

There is, of course, the possibility the United States does have such evidence but is holding it until after U.S. forces now in Afghanistan can be positioned to do something about it \ufffd to avoid alerting a regime prior to attacking.
Exactly what I said about your methodology. You rely upon the POSSIBILITY that something COULD exist. Typical conspiracy theory religious practice.

Nongovernmental analysts say they have seen no such evidence.
I like that term. "no such evidence".

While a connection between an Iraqi intelligence official and a key member of al-Qaeda was confirmed prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, the intelligence community has not, at least yet, indicated it has found evidence of Iraqi support for the group\ufffds terror operations
So, is that similar to our President's meeting with Yasser?

Of course, if you had bothered to follow the links on the link you posted, you'd have come across this little gem.

[link|http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/newswires/2002_2_6.html#4|Here]

U.S. intelligence officials said, however, that the United States does not have enough information to prove Iraq has supported anti-U.S. terrorism (see GSN, Jan. 24). The last known Iraqi attempt at terrorism was a failed operation to assassinate former U.S. President George Bush in 1993.
Again, your case relies upon non-facts and possibilities.

One member of the Iraqi government (and it isn't Saddam) has a "link" to a member of al Queda.

Just as our President has a link to Yasser and has publicly met with him.

Some recent reports indicated that Iraq could have ties to terrorists, but intelligence officials said the information provided no substantial evidence.
After the history or discussions with you, I don't expect you to recognize what "substantial evidence" means.

To put it in simple terms:
The guys who know this, who study this, say that they have found nothing saying Iraq is supporting Osama.

Which is exactly what I've been saying.

U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Mohamed Atta, a leader of the terrorists who hijacked the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, met with Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, a mid-level Iraqi intelligence officer, in Prague, but the meeting does not necessarily tie Iraq to the Sept. 11 attacks.
Emphasis added.

Yes, it is a religion with you.

The experts say that there is no evidence that Saddam supports Osama.

You sole "link" is a mid-level spy meeting with a terrorist in Prague.

A religion is not based upon facts. It is based upon "feelings" and beliefs.

You have one fact and you're going to extrapolate from that into an entire conspiracy.

While the experts in the matter say that such a conspiracy just does not exist.

And its not Osama to Sadam...its Iraq to Al-Q. I don't expect Sadam and Osama would be sharing to many beers at the corner bar.
"Iraq" is nothing more than dirt, oil and plants.

Only the Iraqi government and so forth can have ties to a group of people.

You've floundered so far out of your depth that now you're fantasizing about a secret Iraqi government NOT headed by Saddam that has links to Osama.

Or was that a secret Iraqi government NOT headed by Saddam that has links to a secret al Queda cabal NOT headed by Osama?

Typical conspiracy religion.

And only a true believer would accept such "proof".
New and you too...
...pulling quotes from incorrect contexts..etc...

If anyone else cares to take up the discussion..I'll gladly continue..

Not with you.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Tee hee hee
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=57287|We MUST invade!]

Seems to me that YOU are the one that jumped in on MY comment.

Like I said, it's a religion with you.
New Sure...
...and Ollie was acting alone too.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New No he didn't act alone
He traded arms to Iran with the help of many others. But what does that have to do with a Iraq/Al Qaeda connection?

Oops. I first assumed you were talking about Oliver [link|http://www.airborne-ranger.com/ranger/wannabees/OllieNorth.html|North].

Kukla, Fran and Ollie? Oliver Wendell Holmes? Oliver Stone? Ahhh, I get it. Laurel and Hardy, right? Is there a point aside from the sarcasm?

The arguement isn't that humans have a history of working together, it's about the lack of evidence for the specific case of Iraq working with Al Qaeda.
"A civilian gang of thieving lobbyists for the military industrial complex is running the White House. If to be against them is considered unpatriotic -- Hell, then call me a traitor."
-- Hunter S. Thompson
New Shut up!
Do NOT mock the Holy Conspiracy.

Do you NOT know that if something completely different happened to completely different people with no connection to the current subject...

That it PROVES that the Conspiracy is real!

Facts are the ENEMY (unless they support the Holy Conspiracy).

It is sufficient that the POSSIBILITY exist.

And that POSSIBILITY is proven by someone unrelated to the matter at hand doing something unrelated to the matter at hand.

#1. Saddam and Osama are BAD MEN!

#2. Saddam and Osama HATE THE US!

#3. Saddam and Osama are RAGHEADS!

#4. Ollie did NOT act alone!

Dude, it is so OBVIOUS that someone(s) in Iraq, other than Saddam, is (are) supporting al Queda operations/operatives through a channel(s) other than Osama.

I mean, who CARES what the CIA says!
The CIA has NOT provided any PROOF that the Conspiracy does NOT exist!

They just keep saying that "substantial evidence" does not exist.

Ha! Like that means anything!
     N. Korea has nuke program - (admin) - (65)
         No SH*T really!!! Big Surprise or what!!!!!!!! - (boxley) - (1)
             Tom Lehrer - 1965 - "Who's Next?" - (n3jja)
         We MUST invade! - (Brandioch) - (48)
             import a lot of Kiljungons 4 seater at 5k a pop - (boxley)
             You've left out a few steps... - (bepatient) - (46)
                 There you go again. - (Brandioch) - (45)
                     Excuse me... - (bepatient) - (44)
                         Like I said, no specifics from you. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                             What t f ever. -NT - (bepatient)
                         Partial agreement - (Silverlock) - (41)
                             Yes, they did. -NT - (Brandioch)
                             Agreement with US, Japan and SK...no UN activity. - (bepatient) - (39)
                                 This time I agree with all but one. - (Silverlock) - (36)
                                     Well..you could start with... - (bepatient) - (35)
                                         Pardon me - (Silverlock) - (33)
                                             Is there anything... - (bepatient) - (32)
                                                 I have many doubts - (Silverlock) - (31)
                                                     Been there, done that. - (Brandioch) - (29)
                                                         Oh..right... - (bepatient) - (28)
                                                             What reports? - (Brandioch) - (7)
                                                                 Re: What reports? - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                     And there you go again, again. - (Brandioch) - (5)
                                                                         and you too... - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                             Tee hee hee - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                                                                 Sure... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                     No he didn't act alone - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                                         Shut up! - (Brandioch)
                                                             Consider this - (Silverlock) - (19)
                                                                 I'm not tallking... - (bepatient) - (18)
                                                                     Let's not get off on a tangent - (Silverlock) - (7)
                                                                         Well... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                             Some answers - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                                                                 Hmmm - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                     I guess I wasn't clear enough - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                                                                         Ok - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                             There you go again, again, again. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                                                 Whatever you say. Amen brother. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                     "WTF is wrong with that picture?" - (Brandioch) - (9)
                                                                         Sure I can. - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                             Once again, you are wrong. - (Brandioch) - (7)
                                                                                 You are so predictable. -NT - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                                     And you think that wasn't? -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                                                         Quite frankly... - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                             "didn't accept them"? - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                                                                                 yep...right...whatever you say. -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                                     And, once again, another discussion ends with you retreating - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                                                         Yep...you're right...you're always right. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                     Yes I do. - (bepatient)
                                         Too sane-appearing to be summarily dismissed - (Ashton)
                                 Re: Hey!!! - N Korea has both Nukes, and used WOMS - (dmarker) - (1)
                                     Hmm.. - (bepatient)
         Interesting timing, don'cha think? - (marlowe) - (13)
             Suicide! It's the "terrorist" way. - (Brandioch) - (11)
                 Re: Suicide! It's the "terrorist" way. - (deSitter) - (4)
                     Re: Hey Darryl, ya got a real soft spot for them 'red' - (dmarker) - (3)
                         WTF is Darryl :) - (deSitter) - (2)
                             Used to read all about it in SCMP but is is pay now - (boxley)
                             Re: Sorry Danny mate - me memory got warped - (dmarker)
                 Ah but.. they're Communists, you see - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Re: Ashton - ya made my day with yer Principle - (dmarker) - (1)
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                     bad visual! bad visual! - (Brandioch)
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