Interesting timing, don'cha think?

Post #57,369 by marlowe 10/17/02 2:33:38 PM Reply	Interesting timing, don'cha think? We knew it all along, but they decide to admit it just as we're busy with Iraq? They're trying to force us to fight on two fronts at the same time. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html] The nihilists and the liars have buried truth alive in a shallow grave. "The US party calls in mortar fire on the enemy positions. The UN party stands up, climbs over the lip of the trench, and recites Robert\ufffds Rules of Order as it approaches the machine-gun positions." - Lileks
Post #57,384 by Brandioch 10/17/02 3:48:34 PM Reply	Suicide! It's the "terrorist" way. Sure. N.K. WANTS us to invade them and overthrow their government ("regime change" to those with single digit IQ's) because it would mean we'd have to fight on two fronts at once. While maintaining a military presence in Afghanistan. No. N.K. knows we won't invade. Not now. Not ever. Even when they publicly announce their nuke program and admit that they've been hiding it for years (and not telling the truth about it). They're doing this to prove to the world that the Iraq invasion is all about the oil.
Post #57,400 by deSitter 10/17/02 4:55:32 PM Reply	Re: Suicide! It's the "terrorist" way. No doubt the Red Chinese are somehow involved in this. -drl
Post #57,477 by dmarker 10/18/02 12:27:41 AM Reply	Re: Hey Darryl, ya got a real soft spot for them 'red' Chinees dontchya <grin>. But I keep tryin to tell ya that Mao is dead !!! (big surprise no?). The Chinese I keep meeting are the biggest cowboy capitalists I have ever met - these cowboys are unrestrained by legislation that enforces consumer protection & workers rights etc: etc:. American businessmen I know envy the crap out of these guys because the country will take another 15 years of learning before they have reined in the more aggressive capitalists that are rampaging through the country. Usually when the central govt has evidence of the bribery & tax evasion & worker exploitation being done by the leading graspers, they are long gone off to the US or Canada or some other haven, along with the billions of Yuan they bilked.
Post #57,558 by deSitter 10/18/02 1:25:09 PM Reply	WTF is Darryl :) Danny, me cobber! I don't trust their govt any more than I trust ours. Your report on cowboy capitalists is interesting. Links RE this phenom? -drl
Post #57,699 by boxley 10/18/02 8:50:14 PM Reply	Used to read all about it in SCMP but is is pay now google pla ties to american business and government, google also chinese corruption. It is the major threat to the chicom govt that could return china to warlordism and that is happening in certain areas. Also google on Shanghei and see a picture of what it looks like today. It out brites vegas. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Therefore, by objective standards, the leading managers of the U.S. economy...are collectively, clinically insane." Lyndon LaRouche
Post #57,759 by dmarker 10/18/02 11:55:26 PM 10/19/02 7:09:52 AM Reply	Re: Sorry Danny mate - me memory got warped Anyway re China, as Bill suggests almost Any Google will produce interesting results & be prepared to be stunned if they have lots of pics of Shanghai or Beijing (or almost any of the major cities across the country). The massive shopping malls stocked with worldwide produce, the brand names one sees (incl Starbucks, Pizza Hut, KFC, Pepsi, Coke, Maccer Ds, Wong's Peking Duck :-) etc: etc:), the private enterprise 3-5 star hotels, the advertising on TV, the advertising hordings, the English names & words everywhere, the numbers & variety of cars in the past 10 years (absolutely staggering). Bejing in little over 12 years went from a city of drab dress, lots of bicycles, few cars, wide empty boulevards, to a smog filled, grid-locked, scyscraper packed city, gaily dressed citizens, advertising everywhere, husstle & busstle, etc: etc:. Beijing now has 6 massive major Ring roads, a subway system, a fully replaced international airport (the old one was a national disgrace 12 years ago - I could tell some barely believable stories about it). I still find it hard to grasp how fast buildings & roads appear in China - iut truly staggers me and I always wondered how I could explain it to other people who hadn't seen it for themselves with their own eyes. Some of these buildings are spectacular. 12 years ago China had a dual currency system. The FEC (Foreign Exchange Certificate) and the Yuan (Remin B). We could only use FEC & locals paid a different (dirt cheap) price in Yuan - today that has all gone & we all pay the same prices - internal tourism in China is a staggering growth industry, the growing Chinese middle class are on the move & can now travel overseas quite freely - both Aust & NZ expect their biggest growth in tourists from any region will be toursist from China. Both Aust & NZ are having to warn the growing swarms of these tourists against the shysters and rip-off merchants who are beining to prey on them - most are not used to the crime we have in NZ & Aust (but I have to admit - us Aussies are all from crim stock & our police force has corruption so built into it that noone can eradicate it - the last police commisioner brough in esp from London's Scotland yard with the mission to break the cycle, in the end got sent away having failed. Tourism to China is only just scratching the surface. Massive effort is being put into restoration & creation of tourist facilities. We have seen some wonderful locations, world heritage sites, that make visiting them a lifetime's treat. Be prepared to be amazed when the Olympics get held here - many will wonder where this amazing place really is. (well it snuck in under the radar of perception, asnd at supersonic speed). China seems unstoppable at the moment. Cheers Doug Edited by dmarker Oct. 19, 2002, 07:09:52 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #57,405 by Ashton 10/17/02 5:08:36 PM Reply	Ah but.. they're Communists, you see US Rules of logic must correct: Since they are sub-human (communist AND er brown-ish), they do not think like US. Fact: they are too poor to have a magnicent program of creating an entire advanced arms industry (let alone one capable of supplying its wares to.. oh just about anyone with a few $$ to spare from the peasants' food fund and.. who agree to Like the supplier of this manna, next.) Fact: they are isolated; they are the Grudge-Masters du jour. No sympathy then from er 'allies' ('axes' - we so love to fuck language, and anything else that moves). NO, the fact that they are also unlubricated has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with our disinterest! [Honest] We NEED at least one Commie Pinko State besides tiny Cuba: to keep Loral, Motorola, GE, Halliburton and friends supported in the manner they have become accustomed (to). IT's NOT ABOUT OIL.. it's it's about Principle! you comsymp lackey. (Besides taking 'em out would be just too easy; we Muricans have a word for such folk: gooks. Why they aren't even prospects for The Mouse or McD!) and Interest, of course. Compounded.
Post #57,481 by dmarker 10/18/02 4:07:15 AM Reply	Re: Ashton - ya made my day with yer Principle (& interest) play on words. Hope the others got as well. I need a good grin like that at the end of a long week's work - I mean to say I gotta look at these gooks every day - If I were to work for a Murican corp here I'd deserve danger money for that (then I could go with my good gook friends & have more piss-ups in the bars down in Lan Kwai Fong). OOOOps - mustn't do that - we gotta be next for a big boom & Lan Kwai Fong could be a prime target - narrow streets - big crowds - small area - it would be carnage. We could always go to Wan Chai - OOOps thats the Kuta beach of Hong Kong Island - nope gonna have to forego the many pommy pubs & bars down there. Ahh well - just have to spend it on the long lunches we enjoy having Yum Char. Cheers Doug
Post #57,485 by Ashton 10/18/02 6:05:30 AM Reply	OT - shipping numbers + John Wayne shoots Bambi Damn, and here I be, out in the sticks.. While the Chinese takeout here is pretty authentic.. no decent atmosphere like That! with or without assassins. It's getting weird fast.. as in Philip K. Dick's short story about the statistician, Potiphar Breen, The Year of the Jackpot. (I also just read about US shipping ports VS the automated ones everywhere else) We're having a bit of a W.Coast strike currently; the final gasp of dying unions who don't want to see the last of their longshoreman jobs 'downsized' to automated bar-code reading robots. They'll lose of course; bizness isn't about people, it's about max. imaginary figures (not even on paper) and the daily fear-factor: you'll be the next expendable one, #11666 - so let's see your ass in here Saturday at 8 AM. Seems: Taiwan leads at 19,000 TEUs/gross acre/1999 Kwai Chung (HK) 3rd at 13,400 << that's YOU guys ... ... LA + Long Beach USA 11th at 4000 NY + NJ 14th at 2343 (TEU = 20' equiv. units for containers) So you must see lots of ships, whereas over here not much work seems to get done - just a lot of office computer typing activity and rebooting. Or as was re-observed of late: IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID <<< unless W can keep the drumbeat loud enough til Nov. 5, so that no one talks about the growing disintegration his sophomoric bellicose ways are intensifying. I see US-goods boycotts all over, next. Hope yer salting away a few $HK.. in a depression, some sort of imaginary cash is imaginary-King. What a Way to start a Millennium! with a Village Idiot holding the nookular football. Ashton just watchin the show.. and it's John Wayne Shoots Bambi, in his Maidenform\ufffd bra; ads by Rush Limbaugh and Rev. Foulwell (who recently garnered a few million more wannabe assassins of Muricans)
Post #57,461 by dmarker 10/17/02 9:37:42 PM Reply	Re: But wait!! There's more <grin>, Rumz said that ... he believes that Nth Korea may have a few small nuke weapons. Heard & saw him say this during press briefing. Rumz looks really wierd with his pants down round his ankles. Cheers Doug M
Post #57,497 by Brandioch 10/18/02 9:16:45 AM Reply	bad visual! bad visual! eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Post #57,515 by inthane-chan 10/18/02 11:12:31 AM Reply	<sarcasm>I needed that</sarcasm> Just the visual to go along with my head cold. Now I'm miserable AND grossed out. End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
Post #57,470 by dmarker 10/17/02 11:39:07 PM Reply	Re: Interesting timing, don'cha think? - Dont YOU think ? What impact does the timing of their announcement have ??? Are you seriously trying to imply that it is bastardry of N.K. to show up the falseness of the Iraq strategy ??? If I read your bizzare logic correctly you are more or less saying "Ohhh look - these evil N.K. people are bastards for announcing their bombshell when they did because it shows our Iraq policy up for the false & assinine stratgy it is - what evil bastards these N.K. people are" Your brain, assuming you have one, works in mightly mysterious ways. Doug Marker

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