Makes sense.

Post #5,677 by inthane-chan 8/17/01 4:49:34 PM Reply	Makes sense. And I don't know how much the modern era shows it, but the original comic (IIRC from the '30s) was much darker - Batman was almost as much a thug as the villians he fought against. After the Comic Code Crackdown, they had to clean things up, and IIRC that's where Robin came in. Give me a "gritty" hero over Superman any day. Anybody can aspire to be Batman, but you might as well aspire to be Christ as Superman. A hero without flaws is not a human. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #6,158 by mhuber 8/21/01 6:09:02 PM Reply	Re: Makes sense. My guess is that if you read the books closely, a significant number of Batman's lines are directly cribbed from Nietzsche. The feel is very similar. But then, Nietzsche is everywhere. Reading his stuff and then noticing how much influence he's had is quite disturbing. People who like Nietzsche scare me. And I'm one of them. White guys in suits know best - Pat McCurdy
Post #6,159 by Fearless Freep 8/21/01 6:13:41 PM Reply	..I thought Nietzsche influenced "Superman", not "Batman" :) Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #6,339 by inthane-chan 8/22/01 2:19:05 PM Reply	I probably should read him. Especially since I like that quote so much. Nietzsche probably says some really controversial things - but to be honest, I don't know that Awareness can survive in the universe by continuing to treat anything with a certain commonality of DNA as human. The problem is, selecting the person who makes the division between those truly Aware and those who are not - and that is something that we cannot trust any man with, as can be seen in World War II. Rather, it is the responsibility IMO of each individual to focus themselves to becoming the next stage... "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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