Support Your Local Bookstore

Post #54,986 by deSitter 10/4/02 11:27:38 PM Reply	Support Your Local Bookstore I use Amazon to get ISBNs etc. then special order what is not in stock through my local store. I end up paying 10% more but it goes to a brick and mortar place in my neighborhood with real live people - neighbors - behind the counters, who also must eat, sleep, breathe, and copulate. -drl
Post #54,988 by boxley 10/4/02 11:30:15 PM Reply	insert used into the sentence and shop there first. thanx will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,067 by tseliot 10/5/02 3:21:13 PM Reply	Sorry, but I dont want that. I want a book. I can't stand waiting for them to eat, sleep, breathe, and copulate before I get my book. Adapt or die. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #55,213 by deSitter 10/6/02 10:19:25 PM Reply	Patience both virtuous and healthy. ..it's healthy. -drl
Post #55,271 by tseliot 10/7/02 11:17:26 AM Reply	Patience is not the issue The issue for me is not patience--it's cruft. Disintermediation is a wonderful thing. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #55,291 by deSitter 10/7/02 1:53:30 PM Reply	Then Let's Halt All Local Commerce! That way we can spend all our time in church! -drl
Post #55,395 by Ashton 10/7/02 10:10:42 PM Reply	Heh.. You fancy illuminating the Me/Now generation about patience ?! (let alone about the unintended local consequences of the evident monopolization of everything) Noble thought, though. {sigh} Ashton
Post #55,350 by SpiceWare 10/7/02 7:38:07 PM Reply	so they work somewhere else I bet Fed Ex will be hiring as more online purchases are made. Most of the stuff(over 90%) built where I work is for customers that are not located in the same city we are. We build end products for other companies. It's more efficient for them to outsource to us than it is for them to build it themselves and deal with labor, inventory, purchasing, etc. overhead. B&M places are finding ways to counter online purchases. Most bookstores I've been to now have other reasons to go there, care for a cappuccino? Kinda hard to Fed Ex that :-) Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #55,396 by Ashton 10/7/02 10:11:22 PM Reply	Goose/gander then: ___IT?_/_McDonalds will do for next gig That would be "working somewhere else" wouldn't it? Ashton
Post #55,399 by mhuber 10/7/02 10:34:55 PM Reply	Am there now Used to do the high tech stuff, now I carry stuff around. This is a net loss to the economy, by the way - I produced far more value in technology than I do as an expedited courier. More fun in a lot of ways, though... ---- Whatever
Post #55,411 by SpiceWare 10/7/02 11:24:02 PM Reply	Been going on a long time. There used to be lots of people involved in the procurement of food. Should we turn back time and stop using tractors to grow food? Mass production put people out of work because it was more efficient. A major benefit was products now cost less to consumers. How's this different from Amazon be efficient than B&M? While there is turmoil when changes happen, people do find other work, often in new fields that didn't exist before. Most of us here are working in one of those new fields. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #55,425 by Ashton 10/8/02 12:17:29 AM Reply	If you are content to see your local shopping area consist in 3? 5? years of, about 5 logos - owned, run, 'responding' to customers from some Mega-Corp Office whose fone answerers are in Bangladesh - by all means ignore your local stores. Save x%. Lose -?- Whatever. Reminds me of a cartoon ~ last year, Sunday Paper (about the last vestiges of any wry commentary, in Big meeja) For Better or Worse - a long running kinda soap. One character was talking over the fence to a neighbor. Neighbor had remarked about the nice new Big bookstore where she'd driven a ways, purchased some books that day. Then she noted the hour midweek and asked the character, "hey, hows come you're home this afternoon?" She replied, well, I go in Tues and Thurs now - where I work at the local bookstore. Not enough business. (Yeah it's those messy ~~workers~~ people again - they do so get in the way of Overall Efficiency and homogenization of resources!) Ashton Oh about the food: eaten a tomato lately, ie the chemically-red but way-green and tasteless substitute in your local supermarket? Cheap was it? yeah. Good to eat.. guess it depends upon if you've ever eaten a Real one. I haven't bought one in many years. Some local folks grow real ones though. So yes: we may need a lot more / and smaller groups of / people growing real food. Hmmm maybe nutrition could account for the growing dumbth.. naaah. This way is Way-more Efficient. For accounting purposes and, to some. (We won't even talk about single-crop effects upon the soil, and how long you can fake it with chemicals. That'd be a book (which my neighbor could write; is, in fact - with proof from his experimental fields.))
Post #55,432 by boxley 10/8/02 12:40:12 AM Reply	not moi iffen ya dont count protein ignore the glowing beef. Maters are local, run to plant city in one more month for strawberry flats at 3.5 dollars. Fight the local fruit rats for the grapefruit in the Backyard. Told em straight out save me half or the traps go out, oranges in 1 month. Mellums galore. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,673 by tseliot 10/9/02 2:16:24 AM Reply	Tomato(e)s, rant away. Books, those dont change much If you are content to see your local shopping area consist in 3? 5? years of, about 5 logos - owned, run, 'responding' to customers from some Mega-Corp Office whose fone answerers are in Bangladesh - by all means ignore your local stores. Save x%. Lose -?- Whatever. Fill in that last question mark and we can have a discussion. Otherwise, it's just pontification, and you know how us young 'uns hate pontification. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #55,744 by deSitter 10/9/02 11:08:46 AM Reply	Reason I Brought It Up We have - had - two viable, privately owned bookstores here. One is now a Borders. The other is struggling to stay alive, but I know the owner and he resolutely refuses to be bought out. So if he gets extra cash from me, it's a good thing. As for having to wait, there are usually several special orders in the pipeline so I get my fix on schedule. I predict Amazon will open brick and mortar stores within the year and crush Borders and Barnes/Noble. The Wal-Mart of media. Yucko. -drl
Post #55,745 by admin 10/9/02 11:14:50 AM Reply	Around here Border's IS a local store. They started in Ann Arbor, and are still headquartered there. And their policies are nothing like Walmart's. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #55,748 by drewk 10/9/02 11:28:56 AM Reply	Scott should like this one from the Daily Show Jon Stewart was talking about Bush's latest speech. Showed the clip of him saying (roughly) that there was no threat we face that Iraq isn't also perpetrating. Stewart said, "Wow, the Wal-Mart of evil. Wait ... Wal-Mart is the Wal-Mart of evil." === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #55,769 by admin 10/9/02 12:34:56 PM Reply	I do like that one. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #55,801 by deSitter 10/9/02 3:34:53 PM Reply	Actually I Like Borders It's Amazon B&M that will be like Wal-Mart. (BTW Amazon stock is a good buy.) -drl
Post #55,803 by inthane-chan 10/9/02 3:38:40 PM Reply	What, got some stock you want to offload? ;-) End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
Post #55,807 by deSitter 10/9/02 3:48:24 PM Reply	Thinking of Buying -drl
Post #55,770 by tseliot 10/9/02 12:35:12 PM Reply	I understand that DR It just sounds like clinging to the old faith to me. It's not that the new is intrinsically better, I just fight the idea that older means better. In my experience, you end up trading old evils for new ones anyway. I'm sorry your friend didn't prepare for change. Capitalism's a bitch. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #55,860 by Ashton 10/9/02 9:11:36 PM Reply	Yes - when regulation fails to curb its guaranteed excesses. Did I hear a Rant-call within the noise? OK In those whose allegiance is to abstract theories, as are employed to obfuscate limitless greed - clearly humans are Nothing if they don't fit a variable in the equation. And these ones are humans' lawful prey. The Bitch Goddess Speaks :-\ufffd Assurons-nous bien du fait avant que de nous inqui\ufffdter de la cause -- Fontenelle (Michel Merlin) [cackle] (Let us make sure of the facts before being concerned with the cause)

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