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New Great article about language/programming theory
[link|http://www.dreamsongs.com/MobSoftware.html|Here]

Fast-lane capitalism has created a nightmare scenario in which it is literally impossible to teach and develop extraordinary software designers, architects, and builders. The effect of ownership imperatives has caused there to be no body of software as literature. It is as if all writers had their own private companies and only people in the Melville company could read "Moby-Dick" and only those in Hemingway's could read "The Sun Also Rises." Can you imagine developing a rich literature under these circumstances? Under such conditions, there could be neither a curriculum in literature nor a way of teaching writing. And we expect people to learn to program in this exact context?
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New Great article, indeed. Thanks!
Alex

Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity;
and I'm not certain about the universe.
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New Re: Great article about language/programming theory
Much blathering in order to establish the theory that open source programming is good.

I distrust blather.
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New That's not the point I took from it
He seemed to say pretty clearly up front that Open Source was an assumed good. What I saw as his main point was that a particular reason Open Source is good has been largely overlooked. Namely, that new programmers are growning up and being taught with no foundation in "the classics."

I have believed for a while that you can give someone a dictionary, thesaurus and grammar text, and they won't be a great writer. You can even have them read whatever cannon of classics you choose, and the average person might come to appreciate good writing. But very few will go on to become good writers themselves. That is still a special talent.

But, take away all this background, and the odds of anyone's becoming a great writer are almost nil. How is it, then, that we expect programmers to advance on the achievements of their predecessors if they aren't allowed to see their work?
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New And your point is?
Even with open source, are you saying would-be programmers won't be any better educated than they are today? (If that's what you're saying, I agree with it.)

You can be better educated (eg, someone teaching from Constantine & Yourdon is going to kill someone teachiing from Smith & Smith), but good programming is often only learned from experience, trial, and error.
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New "Standing on the shoulders of giants"
I'm not saying WindowsXX is great code. But even bad code can teach us ... what not to do. If we can't see the code, we just keep making the same mistakes over and over again. With the code, we can learn what to do, what not to do, and how to spot the difference. If every generation has to re-learn the same lessons, progress slows to a crawl.
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New Thanks
I seldom agree with Richard Gabriel's line of argument, but I always find him fun to read.

Got any more to recommend?

Cheers,
Ben
New Nope, that's the first of his I've seen
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New Don't worry, found them.
He was a long-time member of the Lisp community. His most famous is [link|http://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html|Worse is Better]. A little wandering reminded me that that is his site these days.

Now to get time to enjoy reading them... :-)

Cheers,
Ben
     Great article about language/programming theory - (drewk) - (8)
         Great article, indeed. Thanks! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Re: Great article about language/programming theory - (wharris2) - (3)
             That's not the point I took from it - (drewk) - (2)
                 And your point is? - (wharris2) - (1)
                     "Standing on the shoulders of giants" - (drewk)
         Thanks - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Nope, that's the first of his I've seen -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                 Don't worry, found them. - (ben_tilly)

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