Post #53,312
9/26/02 9:43:54 AM
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realpolitik newspeak and the middle east
the PLO says they cannot comply with Israeli demands that they arrest or stop terrorists from attacking Israeli citizens because Israel has destroyed the Security forces ability to function,
meanwhile back at the ranch
[link|http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1032275884277|jpost article] are these people stupid to publically announce this? It "appears" that their security details work just fine, when they want to.
Oh, the bad guys were whining that their protection isnt good enough.
"The PA crackdown on suspected informers comes in response to allegations by many Palestinian activists that the security services are unable to guarantee their safety."
Now the rest of the world wants Israel to negotiate with these folks? Why?
thanx,
bill
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Post #53,336
9/26/02 11:49:19 AM
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Re: realpolitik newspeak and the middle east
Now the rest of the world wants Israel to negotiate with these folks? Why?
Isreal has three choices. The can finish the process of becoming what they hate and eliminate the Palestinians. Or they can continue to try and control the occupied territories and continue the current status quo and insure that their grandkids will still be trying to deal with the violence. Or they can negotiate with Arafat.
Those are Isreal's only 3 choices. I'll admit that dealing with Arafat isn't a real pleasant idea, but at some point the other alternative look even worse.
Jay
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Post #53,400
9/26/02 7:18:36 PM
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Re: realpolitik newspeak and the middle east
If Israel takes the third choice and deals with Arafat, then they're left with two choices: They can finish the process of becoming what they hate and eliminate the Palestinians, or they can try to control what's left of their land and continue the current status quo and ensure that their grandkids will still be trying to deal with the violence, if they last long enough to have grandkids.
That is, unless a miracle happens and some middle ground is found.
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Post #53,346
9/26/02 12:17:40 PM
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realpolitik: brutal occupation negates promises made
Alex
The sun will set without thy assistance. -- The Talmud
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Post #53,347
9/26/02 12:28:39 PM
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which came first the promise or the brutal occupation? ;)
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Post #53,356
9/26/02 1:04:20 PM
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God's promise of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates.
In verse 18 of Genesis 15, we read, "In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates." The Palestinians are, of course, the children of Abraham. :) Alex
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Post #53,363
9/26/02 1:42:56 PM
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yabbut essau traded it to us for a very good bowl of stew!!
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Post #53,350
9/26/02 12:40:54 PM
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Well, we didn't believe them anyway.
Nice to see them cooperating. Could that hungry hungry backhoe in Ramallah have had anything to do with it?
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Everything's a mystery until you figure out how it works.
We are here to go!
The nihilists and the liars have buried truth alive in a shallow grave.
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Post #53,353
9/26/02 1:01:28 PM
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did you read the link?
they are picking up their own people who were ratting out the terrorists. Not the terrorists themselves.
thanx,
bill
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Post #53,364
9/26/02 1:43:08 PM
9/26/02 1:46:13 PM
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Details, Details, Details....
The fact that they're doing anything that looks Authoritarian is good enough for Marlowe
jb4
"About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. "
-- Edsger W.Dijkstra (1930 - 2002)
(I wish more managers knew that...)
Edited by jb4
Sept. 26, 2002, 01:46:13 PM EDT
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