Try TKCVS

Post #52,035 by drewk 9/17/02 11:36:19 AM Reply	Try TKCVS Right [link\|http://www.twobarleycorns.net/tkcvs.html\|here]. There are bunches of other gui frontends for CVS. You also might want to look at [link\|http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/\|Subversion]: The goal of the Subversion project is to build a version control system that is a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community. The software is released under an Apache/BSD-style open source license. Much of the new frontend development seems to be moving towards this instead of CVS. === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #52,037 by admin 9/17/02 11:38:40 AM Reply	It's not the GUI he needs... It's the integration of CVS with the dev tools; namely, Visual Studio .NET (or whatever they're calling it these days). Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #52,044 by drewk 9/17/02 12:14:53 PM Reply	Doh! Of course. I forgot how hard it is to launch two whole applications at once. Yeah, I know it can be convenient having the source control in the same listing as the dev tools. I'm just so used to keeping dev tools on one desktop, testing on another, and admin on a third that I don't usually think in terms of IDE. === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #52,057 by jlalexander 9/17/02 1:58:34 PM Reply	Re: Doh! Yeah, and most of our senior staff here can handle having more then one application open. Unfortunately, we've gotten ourselves into a situation where we have alot of legacy developers that have a very, very limited skill set and ability. Over the years, they've attempted to mentor them, but unsuccessfully. Now, we're dealing with these issues when attempting to migrate away from VBScript to C#, from ASP to .NET, etc... we're growing up, and some of our more junior staff can't. Very interesting predicament to be in. Personally, I say trim the fat. But, again, I'm not the CTO (or even a manager) around here. So, meanwhile, my back hurts from having to carry them. Thanks for the link, Scott! That looks to be a great application to bring up. :) -Jason ---- My pid is Inigo Montoya. You "killed -9" my parent process. Prepare to vi.
Post #52,158 by tuberculosis 9/18/02 3:48:57 AM Reply	I'm in the same fix This company is 3 years old, has some multi-megabuck accounts, and has a web app written in ColdFusion on windows with vss and all the other lame tools that is (not so) slowly collapsing under its own weight. My comrade and I are here to: 1) Redesign the database schema (why? I mean, VARCHAR2's make great foreign keys - right?) 2) Rebuild a very complicated module using WebObjects 3) Build a standard widget set in WebObjects 4) Train the developers in basic Java, OO thinking, and modern open source tools 5) Figure out how to move a fair chunk of development to Poland where we also have to do 4 We'll see how the training goes... I am out of the country for the duration of the Bush administration. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you when democracy returns.
Post #52,156 by tuberculosis 9/18/02 3:41:20 AM Reply	Subversion Looks like its going to be really cool when (if?) it grows up. But I've been watching that project for 2 years and I still don't have the confidence in it to trust my code to it. Maybe a couple more years. I am out of the country for the duration of the Bush administration. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you when democracy returns.

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