"Can you recover my trash?"

Post #51,830 by Brandioch 9/15/02 6:06:35 PM Reply	"Can you recover my trash?" Okay, I'm moving some of the people to a new GroupWise server. I tell everyone that is in the group that is being moved that I'm going to DELETE their TRASH so I don't have to worry about that garbage making it through the move. I send out a REMINDER that the TRASH will be deleted. PLEASE do NOT have anything in the TRASH that you want to KEEP. I knew it would happen. It always does. "I had an important file in my trash, can you get it back for me?" Is there something about computers that makes otherwise intelligent people into idiots?
Post #51,834 by boxley 9/15/02 6:57:34 PM Reply	My favorite is emailing everyone about an outage snail mailing to their paper in boxes, notices hung on all the bulletin board and announced thruout the day of the outage. Always when you call someone to log out they scream I wasnt told and this is more important!!!! The ironic "oops too late" is all you can live for. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #51,836 by Ashton 9/15/02 7:14:11 PM Reply	Yes of course there is: ____The Promise of Windows You need know nothing to choose Our Products\ufffd [Best.. if you don't know] You need know nothing to begin using. [As with other free dope samples] You need learn nothing further (the menus will lead you). Computer knowledge is an unnecessary drudgery and even harmful, as such might lead you to question what we are doing to for you. Be Happy. Stay Dumb. Upgrade. Often. That is all ye know and that is all ye need to know. Problems? Just RRR. Rest case. Or, as re present case: if you screw up, always SomeOne will stay up all night to make it all well. This too is part of Our Plan. Isn't it Neat? Yours most faithfully in His service, Clippy Marketing: more addictive than heroin, but without the sense of peaceful wellbeing. This we call.. satisfiction.
Post #51,846 by a6l6e6x 9/15/02 9:33:03 PM 9/15/02 9:33:30 PM Reply	Ah, a timely Windows haiku message. :) below... Alex Three things are certain: Death, taxes and lost data. Guess which just occurred. [Windows haiku] Edited by a6l6e6x Sept. 15, 2002, 09:33:30 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #51,854 by altmann 9/15/02 10:39:38 PM Reply	Doesn't everyone store their valuables in the garbage can? I have a few users that do this. I've shown them a number of times how to create folders and move items to them (filters that I didn't set up for them would be too much), but they insist on storing email "they might need" in the trash. My usual quip is "do you keep your important paper documents in the trash can"?. They look sheepishly at me but keep doing what they are used to. One of the users is the PHB himself. -- Chris Altmann
Post #51,866 by static 9/16/02 12:24:31 AM Reply	It's no-win. Even if you went to each person personally with your notice and said "read this" and waited for them to get to the end where it says "sign here if you have read the above" and dutifully sign, you will still get someone upset that you deleted their trash! Ultimately, all you can do is say the equivalent of "I told you several times you trash would be deleted. You didn't believe me, but it has been deleted and that's that. You'd probably better believe me next time." Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #57,393 by tablizer 10/17/02 4:14:10 PM Reply	If we could just remove humans from the loops Ultimately, all you can do is say the equivalent of "I told you several times you trash would be deleted. You didn't believe me, but it has been deleted and that's that. You'd probably better believe me next time." \r\n \r\nThen you will be called, "non-accomedating" in your evaluation. I wish there was a pill that would allow geeks to tolerate idiots and PHB's (without side-effects such as addiction and drooling).\r\n \r\n \r\nA compromise would be to tell them it will take a while to recover, and scramble it a bit before giving it back to them. Tell them, "things in the garbage rot, that's why it is messed up slightly." Maybe wipe rotten banana gunk on the diskette too.\r\n \r\n\r\n ________________\r\noop.ismad.com
Post #57,473 by static 10/17/02 11:51:41 PM Reply	"If we could just remove humans from the loops..." Then you will be called, "non-accomedating" in your evaluation. I wish there was a pill that would allow geeks to tolerate idiots and PHB's (without side-effects such as addiction and drooling). I wish there was a pill to allow idiots and PHBs to realize when they're being total dingbats and to pull their head in before it gets shot off. Naturally, they still wouldn't take it. A compromise would be to tell them it will take a while to recover, and scramble it a bit before giving it back to them. Tell them, "things in the garbage rot, that's why it is messed up slightly." Maybe wipe rotten banana gunk on the diskette too. If it's gone, it's gone. This is sometimes unavoidable. If they point-blank refuse to listen - which was my point - then they deserve everything they get coming to them. Of course, you should have the backing of your superiors before embarking on this, usually because they need to be willing to take the inevitable whinges. Especially when it is pointed out that they were given more than fair warning. It is harder to get called "non-accomodating" when your boss knows how far backwards you have already bent Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."

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