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Post #50,145 by drewk 8/22/02 9:28:19 AM Reply	Here's more information Since this is a fairly local story, I saw the followup last night. Apparently she was pushing them around a fair in 95-degree F weather with high humidity. To keep the sun off them, she covered them (up to the neck) with one or more afghans. A police officer walking by heard one of the children wheezing. (Turned out he had a collapsed lung.) Looked in and saw their bright red faces. Told the mother she had to get them out of the heat. She argued with him -- turned into a confrontation. His only recourse to force her to get the kids out of the heat was to arrest her. And the only apropriate charge was child endangerment, which is a felony. So I'm backing off on my earlier opinion. Though I did qualify it by saying there had to be more to it. === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #50,150 by deSitter 8/22/02 10:35:54 AM Reply	Different Story I heard different on Paula Zahn this morning (CNN). The sherrif was on TV in full CYA mode, the way they do. The woman has been harassed before by child services etc. The children has simple sunburns, the kind every kid gets at the swimming pool. The story about the collapsed lung is a fabrication. The child was born prematurely and had underdeveloped lungs - certainly an issue, but hardly a woman dragging around a frittered, gasping waif. The charges have been dropped other than a misdemeanor charge, which is also unjustified. The state knows that control of how you raise and teach your children amounts to control over you - as insidious a form of tyranny as can be imagined. It takes a village to install tyranny. Reference: Steubenville Herald-Star -drl
Post #50,151 by drewk 8/22/02 10:49:11 AM Reply	Knew it wasn't so simple I'll be the only people this is clear to are the ones involved. Or course, they all disagree with each other. === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #50,155 by wharris2 8/22/02 10:58:35 AM Reply	Yet another story I heard on a different show that the mother didn't know about sunscreen lotions. Huh? (Geez, surely that's an exaggeration. If true, though, some people should never have kids.)
Post #50,156 by deSitter 8/22/02 11:05:26 AM Reply	Re: Yet another story WTF? When I was a kid I never even used beach oil. We lived on the California coast until I was 5 and then I spent the rest of my childhood outside all the time, swimming, baseball, bike riding, in the blazing Southern sun. Am I a leatherfaced piece of cancer bait? Fsck no! I tan easily now. The sun is GOOD FOR YOU! WOW! What a surprise! -drl

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