Re: My biased opinion:

Post #47,767 by rsteiner 8/1/02 4:53:28 PM Reply	Re: My biased opinion: > I'm a backend Perl bigot. From what I know of Perl at this point, some bigotry seems justified. :-) > Not for web generation, but large scale > data manipulation. Joined with Oracle, > it's a good, well paid skill set. > > You can get an account on otn.oracle.com > and dl the latest full Oracle for Linux > for free. That's an interesting thought. I've done some SQL stuff using Unisys RDMS (queries, insertions/deletions, etc., from Fortran and COBOL) and Sybase (much the same in C via CT-Lib), but Oracle is something I've not played with, and it seems to be popular. > Go get latest Camel for reference and the > Coriolis Black book for education. Also, > "Data Munging" is a winner, as well as the > DBI book. Thank you. Wow. I'd totally forgotten about the Coriolis books. > Do NOT attempt to learn a lot of varying > technologies to fill out your resume. You > can't possibly be good in more than 1 or 2, > and you will get tripped up on a technical > interview on the rest. I've crucified > many people this way. That might be good advice. Unfortunately, the stuff I'm very good at is not at all marketable. Right now, I need to sit down and decide exactly where to focus: either Java, Perl, or brushing up on C again. -Rich Steiner (OS/2 and Linux user in Eden Prairie, MN) The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
Post #47,774 by broomberg 8/1/02 5:49:32 PM Reply	Re: My biased opinion: The problem with Java is the HUGE amount of APIs that you have to learn to be productive. You can be operational with Perl in a few days, and be really good in a month or so (if you were any good to start with). Java takes much longer. Let me add, though, I like Java. I spent 2 days cramming for the Sun Java test, with NO exposure to it before then, and failed by one question. Imagine the idiots that lucked out the same way and now claim to be programmers. I tried it that way simply to get the cert since my company is a Sun dealer, and I needed one additional cert to maintain our authorization. Good thing I failed. I then got to go to a Solaris kernel tuning class instead. I then spent about 3 months actually learning it, for a paying project. I can't claim any expertise, and very little experience now. It seems there is a new set of APIs every week, depending on the style of interface, network, database, etc, etc, etc. But I was learning it in the days of the AWT to SWING migration. For quick data mangling is sucks, but as an alternative to ANY M$ language, it's fine. Don't bother with 'C' (says the old C programmer). If you MUST go to that type of language, then go Java. If not, go Perl.
Post #47,781 by tonytib 8/1/02 6:57:34 PM Reply	Only consider 'C' if you're interested in embedded prog.
Post #47,863 by wharris2 8/2/02 1:48:54 PM Reply	C is still guts of lots of stuff Even C++ and Java and C# is C in disguise. The lawyers would mostly rather be what they are than get out of the way even if the cost was Hammerfall. - Jerry Pournelle

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