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Post #47,694
by tablizer
7/31/02 11:05:52 PM
7/31/02 11:06:26 PM
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New unless you count time
(* because they give developers a free copy to learn from... *)

I tried that once, and kept getting "listener" errors. Packaging a complex product with complex interprocess mechanisms meant for overpaid DBA's into a plug-n-play CD set does not seem to work too well.

Software that takes up 3 CD's is bound to be a monster.
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Collapse Edited by tablizer July 31, 2002, 11:06:26 PM EDT
unless you count time
(* because they give developers a free copy to learn from... *) I tried that once, and kept getting "listener" errors. Packaging a complex product with complex interprocess mechanisms meant for overpaid DBA's into a plug-n-play CD does not seem to work too well.
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Post #47,698
by broomberg
7/31/02 11:27:01 PM
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New Overpaid DBAs?
Maybe.
Or maybe well valued.
Either way, it is a good skillset,
but with limited jobs open you
really have to work hard to get
a position.

I'm not a DBA (I pretend to be one
when the real DBA isn't around), but
it takes me about 10 minutes to install
and setup a sample running Oracle instance
with the current setup. You no longer
have to "create" a database, it copies
a precreated one for you.

Since I hand crafted my system, it
takes about 2 hours for a real one.
Post #47,949
by gdaustin
8/3/02 11:14:23 AM
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New One More Thing
(Favorite saying of Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures, a cartoon that my kids watch)

It is niiicceee to be the overpaid DBA. I'm one! And certified, too!

One More Thing

Companies care about nothing but money. Government cares about data retention. Who do you think wins? Records must be kept. Too expensive to keep them in files, database perfect job! Programs come and go, but data stays around at least for government required retention period.

One More Thing

Do not badmouth my profffeeeessssiiiiooonnnn!

(I'm really getting into this Uncle thing...)

Glen Austin
(Aka Uncle)
(should I change my handle?)
     Unemployed programmer seeking advice... (Is that all <g>) - (rsteiner) - (62) - July 30, 2002, 01:38:12 PM EDT
         Your list looks OK - (wharris2) - (2) - July 30, 2002, 01:47:26 PM EDT
             Good thoughts... Thanks! - (rsteiner) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 01:55:31 PM EDT
                 c and perl on solaris and linux - (boxley) - July 30, 2002, 02:02:34 PM EDT
         The "in thing" now is canning programmers - (tablizer) - (9) - July 30, 2002, 02:46:25 PM EDT
             IT Rust Belt - by Bob Lewis - (tablizer) - (8) - July 30, 2002, 11:58:59 PM EDT
                 Key point - (broomberg) - Aug. 1, 2002, 09:46:38 AM EDT
                 Writing code is *FUN* for me... - (rsteiner) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:28:52 PM EDT
                     Ditto here. - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 1, 2002, 07:29:20 PM EDT
                     I love coding, BUT... - (gdaustin) - Aug. 3, 2002, 12:01:42 PM EDT
                     No slider widget for $ - (tablizer) - (3) - Aug. 7, 2002, 05:30:45 PM EDT
                         Re: No slider widget for $ - (rsteiner) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2002, 05:57:33 PM EDT
                             It isn't whether you mind it more... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2002, 06:25:30 PM EDT
                                 Heh... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 8, 2002, 05:50:18 PM EDT
         Re: Unemployed programmer seeking advice... - (admin) - (8) - July 30, 2002, 03:02:52 PM EDT
             DB2 versus Oracle - (tablizer) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 03:21:00 PM EDT
                 But tab - you're a shoe in! - (gdaustin) - July 30, 2002, 06:13:56 PM EDT
             Where to get Oracle? - (lincoln) - (5) - July 31, 2002, 10:30:46 AM EDT
                 Re: Where to get Oracle? - (admin) - (4) - July 31, 2002, 11:02:27 AM EDT
                     Which is why I like Oracle - (orion) - (3) - July 31, 2002, 11:40:17 AM EDT
                         unless you count time - (tablizer) - (2) - July 31, 2002, 11:06:26 PM EDT
                             Overpaid DBAs? - (broomberg) - (1) - July 31, 2002, 11:27:01 PM EDT
                                 One More Thing - (gdaustin) - Aug. 3, 2002, 11:14:23 AM EDT
         Not a bad list - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 30, 2002, 03:31:20 PM EDT
             nit fuel - (tablizer) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 05:42:43 PM EDT
                 Yes but those people are wrong :-P -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 31, 2002, 03:25:32 AM EDT
         Unsuprisingly I will suggest picking up a scripting language - (ben_tilly) - (5) - July 30, 2002, 10:10:02 PM EDT
             Thanks, Ben... - (rsteiner) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:35:32 PM EDT
                 Re: Thanks, Ben... - (broomberg) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2002, 05:58:57 PM EDT
                     Why not? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:51:07 PM EDT
                         Dunno - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2002, 10:08:32 AM EDT
                             Perhaps... - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 5, 2002, 06:56:34 AM EDT
         Teach? - (andread) - (1) - July 31, 2002, 12:50:09 PM EDT
             Not for me, I'm afraid... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:36:14 PM EDT
         Hi! - (deSitter) - (3) - July 31, 2002, 05:06:12 PM EDT
             Requirements for the IT jobs - (orion) - July 31, 2002, 10:13:54 PM EDT
             Hullo! - (rsteiner) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:41:30 PM EDT
                 Boo Hoo OS/2 - (deSitter) - Aug. 2, 2002, 09:31:07 AM EDT
         My biased opinion: - (broomberg) - (16) - July 31, 2002, 11:16:22 PM EDT
             Be Specific - (deSitter) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:54:59 AM EDT
                 Re: Be Specific - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 09:35:32 AM EDT
                     Danke -NT - (deSitter) - Aug. 1, 2002, 12:38:43 PM EDT
             Re: My biased opinion: - (rsteiner) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:53:28 PM EDT
                 Re: My biased opinion: - (broomberg) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 05:49:32 PM EDT
                     Only consider 'C' if you're interested in embedded prog. -NT - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 06:57:34 PM EDT
                         C is still guts of lots of stuff - (wharris2) - Aug. 2, 2002, 01:48:54 PM EDT
             Don't master many, but at least be exposed to several? - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:47:24 PM EDT
                 I wouldn't - (broomberg) - (7) - Aug. 4, 2002, 11:42:20 AM EDT
                     Query - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:02:46 AM EDT
                         Poor example - (broomberg) - (5) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:39:23 PM EDT
                             Haggling - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Aug. 5, 2002, 08:51:00 PM EDT
                                 It's in my blood, I have to - (broomberg) - (3) - Aug. 5, 2002, 09:13:56 PM EDT
                                     I think you missed my reference - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 5, 2002, 09:52:10 PM EDT
                                         Ahh, ye of little HR experience - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2002, 06:24:27 AM EDT
                                             I would like to believe... - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 6, 2002, 10:46:34 PM EDT
         Try SouthWest Airlines... - (gdaustin) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2002, 12:32:04 PM EDT
             Heh. - (rsteiner) - (4) - Aug. 4, 2002, 02:56:00 AM EDT
                 You might check out the Seagate & such - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2002, 06:51:58 PM EDT
                     It's a thought -- I'll check it out. - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:00:50 AM EDT
                 Might try ING or Wells Fargo - (gdaustin) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2002, 10:27:56 PM EDT
                     Not really... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:18:33 AM EDT
         This made me think of you - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:47:03 PM EDT
             Heh. :-) - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:21:52 AM EDT

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