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New Within limits
Unfortunately, children start testing limits before they are able to understand an explanation of why some things are unacceptable. As long as the swat on the butt* is intended to get their attention, not to actually hurt them, it can be effective. When a two-year-old decides to bite mommy hard enought to draw blood because mommy said "no", that two-year-old gets a swat on the butt and immediately put in her crib until she cools off.

* Through a diaper they can barely feel it anyway.
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Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
New You can get their attention more easily
Kids that age read intent pretty well.

If your whole body language reads, "You are way over the line, buster" (and that is reinforced by tone of voice, a restraining hold on their arm forcing them to look at you, etc), then actual punishment doesn't add much.

Cheers,
Ben
"Perl is like vice grips. You can do anything with it, and it's the wrong tool for every job."
--Unknown
New OT: love your .sig
Here's another:

Perl is like a hammer;...and everything looks like a nail.

:)
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Steve
New Thanks
Perl is a good source of fun quotes. See [link|http://www.suslik.org/Humour/Computer/Langs/larry.html|here] for a list. (A personal favorite being, I do quarrel with logic that says, `Stupid people are associated with X, therefore X is stupid.' Stupid people are associated with everything.

Incidentally one of my favorite flames ever was [link|http://www.python.org/search/hypermail/python-1994q3/0101.html|this one].

Cheers,
Ben
"Perl is like vice grips. You can do anything with it, and it's the wrong tool for every job."
--Unknown
     How not to raise brats or problem-childs? - (orion) - (26)
         Parenting with Love and Logic - (Steve Lowe)
         the golden rule - (boxley) - (1)
             Or as my dad says - (orion)
         Difficult question - (wharris2)
         WHACK! - (deSitter) - (20)
             Yup. - (Steve Lowe) - (16)
                 Nope - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                     Within limits - (drewk) - (3)
                         You can get their attention more easily - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             OT: love your .sig - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                 Thanks - (ben_tilly)
                     Hmmyah... With one or two exceptions, I think[*] - (CRConrad) - (10)
                         Rant On ! - (boxley)
                         Exceptions - (orion)
                         Not those exceptions - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                             I think I see something. - (static) - (4)
                                 Kinda right - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                     Slogans like, "spare the rod, spoil the child" - (Ashton)
                                     Difference between a dog and a child - (orion) - (1)
                                         ok.. - (deSitter)
                             Yes, exactly those exceptions. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                 We have very different views of "acceptable" - (ben_tilly)
             do it out of love or fear but you WILL respect me - (boxley)
             Has been done - (orion) - (1)
                 The best thing is to set a good example - (ben_tilly)
         OT: Uncle Tax - (orion)

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