Its not *good* beer - and I'd skip the examples Norm

Post #47,564 by tuberculosis 7/31/02 3:37:36 AM Reply	Its not good beer - and I'd skip the examples Norm If its the big one in St Louis we all know from TV. But its a job just the same. Norm - I'd bail on the examples. Don't bother with them. Instead, I'd simply do my best to appear knowledgable about a couple of pitfalls in web development. Example - visual html editors are not so good for performance as they tend to construct deeply nested table structures to manage placements and the browsers tend to bog down in the table constraint calculations. The best way to speed up many websites is to remove redundant tables in the pages put there by the brilliant but technically clueless artists. Stuff like that. I'd bone up on a couple website style pundit postings before you go in as well. zeldman.com is one such site I think. Examples invite the discovery of flaws and can do more harm than good. I am out of the country for the duration of the Bush administration. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you when democracy returns.
Post #47,569 by static 7/31/02 6:55:45 AM Reply	HTML table-tastic (and v.OT) I quick way to totally lockup IE, if not crash it, is to build several hundred nested tables. I did it by accident once in a PHP script - IE locked solid on my PC trying to display 6000 nested, unclosed tables! Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #47,577 by jb4 7/31/02 8:54:29 AM Reply	6000 tables! Way Kewl! Isn't it amazing how quickly automation can screw things up? It's good to see that even the experts occasionally lose control of that moneky wrench (or spanner, for those of you on the other side of either pond)... jb4 "I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch
Post #47,700 by static 7/31/02 11:47:37 PM Reply	Oh yes. grin "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #47,621 by cwbrenn 7/31/02 1:41:56 PM Reply	Visual web editors While most visual web editors are very poor at creating clean, optimized HTML, and if I do it by hand I can make web pages much smaller, I still wind up using Macromedia Dreamweaver to create all my web templates. Why? Because as far as tables go, it doesn't handle them too badly, and I can create layouts a lot quicker using it than by coding them by hand. Some visual web editors are absolute crap (like Frontpage) but some are a pretty good tradeoff. Most of the messy html on Ubersoft.net comes from the server-side includes on Keenspot, not the stuff I did in Dreamweaver (on my Windows machine) or HomePage Publisher (on my OS/2 machine). "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #47,629 by deSitter 7/31/02 2:08:15 PM Reply	Hey! For American beer, it ain't too bad. Sort of like being in first place in a weak division. -drl
Post #47,634 by a6l6e6x 7/31/02 2:42:45 PM Reply	Re: Hey! If you've ever taken the tour at your local facility and had the sample at the end of the tour (I did in July of 1974) it is quite good. Better than anything of theirs you can buy. Other than a hot day in July, I don't know why that was the case. Alex "Television: chewing gum for the eyes." -- Frank Lloyd Wright
Post #47,680 by orion 7/31/02 9:54:25 PM Reply	Its the King of Beers and they just are working on an agreement with the largest brewer in China, sort of a partnership. They will be expanding their market to China due to this. Did I mention that they employ 1200 IT Workers in St. Louis? They are Big on Microsoft, but they pay pretty well. Their contracts don't last more than five years, but that is a lot longer than most other local firms have for contract limits. I'll be a contractor if I get hired, and they have a right to hire me if I do a good job and they have an open position for me to move into their company. Oh course the taste of the beer doesn't matter to me, I don't drink beer. If any of their products, I might pick an O'Douls, or whatever the non-alcohol drink is that they have. I think I had one at my bachelor party in 1997, made the other guys think that I was drinking real beer instead of near beer. Tasted like beer, but no buzz. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #47,693 by a6l6e6x 7/31/02 11:01:45 PM Reply	Tsing Tao. [link\|http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/020731/tsingtao_anheuser_busch_2.html\|Tsingtao Allies With Anheuser-Busch.] ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Beer-making giant Anheuser-Busch Cos. and China's Tsingtao Brewery Co. plan to form a strategic alliance to further develop the growing Chinese beer market. Neither company would offer details of the alliance, announced Tuesday, saying details are still under negotiation. But the deal would increase Anheuser-Busch's 4.5 percent stake in Tsingtao. The St. Louis company acquired that stake for $16.4 million in 1993. We've got a Tsing Tao (Chinese) restaurant here in Charlotte and I've named my Pekinese dog Tsing-Tsing. Stll don't know if Tsing-Tsing means anything. Alex "Television: chewing gum for the eyes." -- Frank Lloyd Wright
Post #47,756 by orion 8/1/02 4:19:28 PM Reply	Has to be approved by Chinese government if not, any deal would be a no-go. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #47,876 by deSitter 8/2/02 4:15:49 PM Reply	You Know What They Say About Chinese Beer... Thirty minutes after a six pack, you're sober again. -drl

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