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New Minnow damage
Just got back from the hospital. I spent the last few days at my folks place in the Chicago area. They have a condo on nice sized lake. I was attempting piscatorial ascendancy (catching as many fish as possible) and found an entirely new way to damage myself. Using minnows works well at this lake and I am a fanatical fisherman. (Notice I didn't say 'good'.) After outwitting several of our aquatic neighbors, I found myself, once again, putting a fresh minnow on the hook. The dastardly opponent performed a remarkable leap and twist that granted it a short-lived (yeah, right) freedom. Thinking to myself, "no way do you escape", I swooped with great confidence to capture the errant beast and proceeded to drive a large portion of the dock firmly under my fingernail.

It has been the splinter from hell. I now understand why needles under the fingernails is spoken of as an effective torture.

Since I was out of town and I have an HMO, I assumed I would have to pay the full cost of an emergency room visit (did I mention the size of splinter yet? 4 centimeters long and about a third that wide. Damn near the size of the nail it burrowed under.), so I waited till I got back to home before contacting medical assistance. This turns out to have been an unwise decision..

My Doctor was full up with appointments and asked why I hadn't gone to the emergncy room right away. Since I had no good answer, I told him off (just to keep him in his place) and went to the local emergency room..

Six hours and a bit of minor surgery later, I decide to use only worms or artificial bait from this point forward.
"We are patriotic citizens too. Patriotism means 'love of country',
caring about its people, its ecosystem, and others around us. Not giving
blind loyalty and a blank check to George W. Bush. We are patriotic enough
to care about the long term effects instead of just the short term gain.

Therefore it is our patriotic duty to guard our country and our constitution
against people and forces hiding behind the flag."

-Jello Biafra
New Ouchhh! How can you be typing?
Alex

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." -- Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
New Half as fast as normal
The left hand knows how to do touch typing, the right is limited to 'one fingering'.
"We are patriotic citizens too. Patriotism means 'love of country',
caring about its people, its ecosystem, and others around us. Not giving
blind loyalty and a blank check to George W. Bush. We are patriotic enough
to care about the long term effects instead of just the short term gain.

Therefore it is our patriotic duty to guard our country and our constitution
against people and forces hiding behind the flag."

-Jello Biafra
New So, sometimes the minnow wins . . .
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New Nnngh ow ow ow ow STFU plzkthx
That just HURTS to read about :(


Peter
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New Unfair, the fish had help!
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything."
--Richard Feynman
New pair of needle nose pliars, a needle
2 shots of whiskey one for you one for your finger.
thanx,
bill
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
New Four CENTImeters... or milli-? (4 cm ~ 1.8")
New Sheesh, I make that mistake all the time
Call it 3/4 inch by 1/4 inch
"We are patriotic citizens too. Patriotism means 'love of country',
caring about its people, its ecosystem, and others around us. Not giving
blind loyalty and a blank check to George W. Bush. We are patriotic enough
to care about the long term effects instead of just the short term gain.

Therefore it is our patriotic duty to guard our country and our constitution
against people and forces hiding behind the flag."

-Jello Biafra
New Yup, it's that metric system again.
Milimeters, micrometers, centimeters, pentameters, decimeters, kilometers, meters - so easy to get confused - so easy to slip a decimal point here and there. Stick with inches, feet and yards - less prone to error.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New easy way to remember willies are measured in centimenters
and the man in the boat is measured in millimeters.
thanx,
bill
."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
New \ufffd, Shil, six-pence, ha-penny, Guinea - much more fun too..
Half-Crown, vanished farthing (thus 'penny-farthing' on The Prisoner logo cycle.) Penny biggest of all (but copper). Ahhh the gold Sovereign (but by then - only at yer local numismatist). Now THERE was Real Money\ufffd; only the Guvnor carried stuff like that around.

You began to Notice what things Cost.. and what real money Looks like - or at least did. I gather that the latest UK 'coins' are as dead (when dropped) as the *dull thud* of some laminated junk-metal + flash-coating, as now constitutes Our pathetic specimens of specie.

Anyway.. Loved the fun of carrying those bizarre multiples in head, faking out the locals who just assumed that a Yank couldn't hack it.. hmmm was that octagonal-thingie a thruppence? History! Love It or vote Repo.


[cacklette]


Ashton
Vanity vanity; all is vanity.
New Not forgetting
Your bushels, pecks and barrels; your rods, poles and perches; your chains, fathoms and furlongs.

Pop quiz. Without using a calculator or Google, how many feet in a mile? In a nautical mile?

OK, that's too easy. How many square feet in an acre? What? Too easy?

How many feet in a furlong?

How many pounds in a perch?

Of course, posting here is prima facie evidence of cheating...

The metric system kicks the sorry ass of this whole bloody mess, and you know it :-)


Peter
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New + grains, drams, minims, Av/Troy ounces, but.. PINT= OK! :-\ufffd
New My favorite question...
Which weighs more, a pound of gold or lead?

People get so confused when the trick isn't the one they thought it would be. :-)

Cheers,
Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything."
--Richard Feynman
New Bull**
Your conversion problems are entirely irrelevant, but such calculations are the only defense metrification supporters can muster. When one is speaking in acres, it's unlikely one needs to convert to square feet, or to any other measure for that matter. Fractional acres will do fine.

How many feet are in a nautical mile is not only seldom needed, but is only an approximation, because a nautical mile is a minute of arc on the surface of a not quite spherical Earth. This navigational convenience does not translate any better into metric. Note that degrees and minutes of arc have not been successfully metrified.

Those "quaint" measures you name were designed specifically for service within some trade or profession to which they were particularly suited. Seldom would they need to be "converted" to any other measures. Some of these trades and professions are no longer significant or have changed their conventions, so their old measures are of only historical value. How many feet are in a furlong or a chain, or how many pounds in a perch - there is simply no need to know.

Of course, when one wishes to be difficult, such as by stating orbital velocities in furlongs per fortnight, archaic measures are invaluable.

The non-metric measures still in common use (at least in areas where they have not been taken from the people by government force), are particularly suitable for human scale application. The foot, for instance, is far better than the meter, both in size and because it is divisible into halves, quarters and thirds. The meter is only divisible into halves and tenths. The halves are too big, and the tenths too small - nobody thinks in tenths. In cases where something around a meter really is appropriate, we have yards.

Metric measures are inappropriately sized for just about any use you can think of, except perhaps subatomic physics, and I'm not sure about that. Certainly, at the other end of the scale, metric measure is displaced by the "light year", not a metric measure. In fact, no common measure involving either time or angle is metric, Even the death penalty was insufficient to bring that about.

Metric measures are particularly unsuitable for cooking - only a few die-hard engineers would even attempt it. Metric defenders always say, "Americans cook by volumes and Europeans by weight", which is probably very true - the poor Europeans have no suitable volume measures to use - they have no choice but to use weight. Volume measure is far faster and does not require extra equipment.

The metric bolting system is another problem. So inferior is it to the American SAE system, that the Europeans were hoping (back in the '60s) the U.S. would adopt a proposed system called "The American Metric Bolting System" so they'd have an excuse to convert to it. Further, Europeans size wrenches in odd numbers of milimeters and the Japanese in even numbers of milimeters - some "international standard" that is!

I remember back when the computer cabinet makers all decided to use metric screws. They stripped out so easily we system builders had to force American screws into the stripped out holes. All the cabinet makers went back to American size and threading, and the metric are now used only for holding in floppies and CD-ROMs.

In France, the originators of the metric system were all shortened by one head. Not only was this a highly suitable punishment, it saved them the embarassment of trying to use their metric system in daily life. It's imposition upon the people of France was by the death penalty - no lesser penalty was considered sufficient to enforce something so dumb.

Fortunately, in the United States, the metrification movement has died out completely, particularly since the Canadians have declared their conversion not worth the effort and expense. Today, one rarely sees road signs with kilometers, and the few left are generally full of bullet holes. No longer do cookbooks have a second column expressing measures in metric.

The only place one really finds metrification freaks in this country is in the universities, the same places where it is held that Arab culture is superior to Western culture. I confess that I myself fell under metric influence in the universities, but afterwards, when I tried applying metric measure to daily life, I soon abandoned it.

Yes, metric measures are used in the U.S. (though not nearly so much as promoters claim - just try buying metric bolts at most auto parts stores). Metric meaure is quite evident in the 1-litre beverage container, which everyone knows is somewhat larger than a quart.

In the U.S. we have adopted metric measures in addition to our normal measures, in cases where they make sense, enriching our system of measurement. Metrification nuts ask us to empoverish our system by using only metric. This we will not do.

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** The standard unit of bull is the pie, or pucky, but this is seldom used. When bull is used without a qualifier, it is the steaming pile (1728 pies) that is implied. The only other common measure is the great steaming pile (144 steaming piles). There are no metric equivalents, except as the term bull may apply to the entire metric system.

Bull, the animal is a secondary source of bull, but is greatly inferior in production to the primary source, the politician. A full grown bull can produce only a few pies a day, whereas a skilled politician can produce a great steaming pile in a single speech.

A bull market is so called because most of the stock valuation is based entirely on bull - in great steaming piles.
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New Bravisssimo!
Yup - one Great place for the utter convenience of decimal equivalencies is physics (and most related sciences: and most sciences Are related). I have little doubt that it aids in the grokking of relationships which would be submerged in cockamamie 'conversions' (ft.-poundals anyone?) and unto distraction.. w/o the sanity of the 'metric' system.

This I believe IS a decent reason for science students to grok the metric system, CGS, MKS and any fanciful new units: as the Man said, it is unseemly that the labors of excellent wo/men should be wasted in repetitive calculation.

As to whether JoeSixp-Ack must needs suffer the carrying of Two count 'em Two.. systems in brain, along with the need to remember the color swatches for the new UAV seat ?? Why not Two or Three along with the reasons Why?

Your call. (Do kids memorize the multiplication tables anymore? Could they, anymore?) Never mind that.. folks are surrounded by exponentially [WTF is That?] growing numbers of techno toys aiming ---> Avogadro's Number [WTF is That?] in the near-future.

Is the brain a muscle, improved with exercise? Or can it be filled-up prematurely.. rendered incapable of recall of Important RBI-stats earlier than say 1982.?. if forced to remember what 'e' might be, to 5 or 6 places Also (?)
[WTF is 'e'?]

Is comfort mostly a drug or is it Only a drug? Is the unending search for More comfort - a sign of premature senility? terminal sloth? the apex of a civilization or its nadir?

IS EZ always/ever better?


Ashton
3.1415926536 is close-enough for Govt. work
22/7 is close enough for <0.1% error.
Why should we care?

From the [link|http://www.cs.unb.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/mathtext/node18.html|Land of Quayle ] comes: proof that Muricans are a Special EZ-Breed, as in: QED (we don't need no stinkin Latin neither)
Always choose the difficult.
Rainer Maria Rilke
New Re: Bravisssimo!
Do kids memorize the multiplication tables anymore? Could they, anymore?
Mine does. He decided to learn the 19s the other day because he thought it was fun. *boggle*

That's all. Just thought it was amusing that you would ask that. :-)

(btw, he knows exponents, Avogadro's number, e, and both the decimal value and the fractional approximation of pi as well... there's no accounting for curiosity)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Then please..
Never! let this person *ride* in VW-bugs, Pintos, the more-stupid 'high' UAVs ... or anything with fewer than 8 air-bags. OK?

(I usually fudge the er upper tables: round-up, EZ-multiply then add-back an even easier multiply)

Also recall an anecdote re a couple physics Luminaries, though I can't be sure which! - might have been Fermi? and Bethe.. maybe Feynman was in this little event (but if Von Neumann, would merely be 'expected')

Arguing a Problem (maybe Los Alamos related) they were 'running differential equations' in brain. An onlooker imagined you could see folks moving partial results into 'internal registers' (!). Someone also had a calculator (which would have been an old Marchant mechanical one with electric motor) - which finished last.

{sheesh} imagine the Utility of having Flash-RAM in one's brain/mind! (would that be firmware, wetware or Warez?)

I sorta liken this to 'circular breathing' - which has been learned by a variety of wind-instrument players.. just in past 30? years: ie can play Perpetuum Mobile on a flute, trumpet etc. It is *awe*some, that overused, now dead word - to those of us who hear the Impossible being done.

Maybe your son can grok How the above folks managed their literally 'routine' feats too (?)




... must be scary to be raising a potential National Treasure.

Cheers,

Ashton
New *smile*
He's fanatically careful with his own person... but I'll pass the advice along. ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New See if you can convince him that duo-decimal is better :-)
More tables to remember!

Cheers,
Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything."
--Richard Feynman
New I'm not going there...
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Aw, can't I corrupt him a little?
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything."
--Richard Feynman
New Great steaming piles of it from you, Andrew.
the Gryge dribbles in his beard:
Your conversion problems are entirely irrelevant, but such calculations are the only defense metrification supporters can muster. When one is speaking in acres, it's unlikely one needs to convert to square feet, or to any other measure for that matter. Fractional acres will do fine.
So, if we have a two-acre parcel of land, and divide it up into twenty-five equal plots to grow vegetables in, how many feet (or whateverhefuck you weirdoes measure lumber in) of fencing material does it take for everyone to get his little plot fenced around? If you're trying to say it's not convenient to have your units related for stuff like *that*, then you're flat out lying.

But what you seem to be forgetting (or perhaps never knew -- naah, I think you're just trying to ignore what talks against you), is how easy and logical the metric makes it to convert between different *kinds* of measures: Length to volume to weight to force to length... If you want to calculate the size of, say, a dam for hydro-electric power generation. What you need to know is the potential mechanical energy of the water in the dam, for different heights and sizes of dam. So, what does a foot-acre (that's the weird unit you use for shit like this, right?) of water weigh? How much power can you get out of that?

Try to tell me *those* calculations make sense in your weirdo units, and you're lying even more.


How many feet are in a nautical mile is not only seldom needed, but is only an approximation, because a nautical mile is a minute of arc on the surface of a not quite spherical Earth. This navigational convenience does not translate any better into metric. Note that degrees and minutes of arc have not been successfully metrified.
Note that Andrew conveniently "forgot" about the *land* mile.


Those "quaint" measures you name were designed specifically for service within some trade or profession to which they were particularly suited. Seldom would they need to be "converted" to any other measures. Some of these trades and professions are no longer significant or have changed their conventions, so their old measures are of only historical value. How many feet are in a furlong or a chain, or how many pounds in a perch - there is simply no need to know.
So, throw the lot of them out... and while you're at it, throw out the old idiotic pounds and feet too.



Of course, when one wishes to be difficult, such as by stating orbital velocities in furlongs per fortnight, archaic measures are invaluable.
Yeah, that's about all they're good for.

Archaic measures like miles and feet and shit, that is.


The non-metric measures still in common use (at least in areas where they have not been taken from the people by government force), are particularly suitable for human scale application. The foot, for instance, is far better than the meter, both in size
What bullshit is this???


and because it is divisible into halves, quarters and thirds. The meter is only divisible into halves and tenths. The halves are too big, and the tenths too small - nobody thinks in tenths. In cases where something around a meter really is appropriate, we have yards.
Yeah, wow, like the meter isn't evenly divisble into 25 centimeters...

But, hey, I know: If this shit is so important to you, why not get rid of the decimal system altogether -- in basic arithmetic, that is -- and go back to the good old Babylonian math! (Base 60, in case anybody wondered.)


Metric measures are inappropriately sized for just about any use you can think of,
Pure unadulterated great steaming piles.


In fact, no common measure involving either time or angle is metric, Even the death penalty was insufficient to bring that about.
You just don't *get* it, do you?

Like I told Karsten: Metric != Decimal. How the fuck *would* you relate TIME to the definition of the meter?!?


Metric measures are particularly unsuitable for cooking - only a few die-hard engineers would even attempt it. Metric defenders always say, "Americans cook by volumes and Europeans by weight", which is probably very true - the poor Europeans have no suitable volume measures to use - they have no choice but to use weight. Volume measure is far faster and does not require extra equipment.
And here's the greatest, steamingest, smellingest pile of them all. (Actually, that was all I was originally going to comment on, but then I was writing anyway...)

That's just not fucking true; I've *never* heard that "Americans cook by volumes and Europeans by weight" claptrap from anybody *but* anti-metric Americans.

I use volume measures all the time. (At least in Swedish, we even have archaic-sounding nicknames like "teaspoon" for a 5-milliliter measure.)


The metric bolting system is another problem. So inferior is it to the American SAE system, that the Europeans were hoping (back in the '60s) the U.S. would adopt a proposed system called "The American Metric Bolting System" so they'd have an excuse to convert to it. Further, Europeans size wrenches in odd numbers of milimeters and the Japanese in even numbers of milimeters - some "international standard" that is!
Sure it is -- a twelve-millimeter wrench is twelve millimeters in France just like in Germany just like in Japan; a thirteen-millimeter wrench is thirteen millimeters in Japan just like in Germany just like in France.


I remember back when the computer cabinet makers all decided to use metric screws. They stripped out so easily we system builders had to force American screws into the stripped out holes. All the cabinet makers went back to American size and threading, and the metric are now used only for holding in floppies and CD-ROMs.
That twist is so low I wouldn't have expected it even from Bryce.

Care to explain, *exactly*, how the apparently inefficient profile of the spiral ramps [fuck, what's the term in English?] on the screws is related to the unit of the overall *size* of the same screw?!?

Yeah, sure, whoever made those badly-formed metric screws made badly-formed metric screws.

But they'd have been just as badly formed in inches.


Yes, metric measures are used in the U.S. (though not nearly so much as promoters claim - just try buying metric bolts at most auto parts stores). Metric meaure is quite evident in the 1-litre beverage container, which everyone knows is somewhat larger than a quart.
Aha! So, according to the Holy Murrican precept of "Bigger Is Better", liters *are* better than quarts! :-)
   Christian R. Conrad
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-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
New Thread is the word you are looking for and also
"I use volume measures all the time. (At least in Swedish, we even have archaic-sounding nicknames like "teaspoon" for a 5-milliliter measure.)"
proof that the metric system is so awful that you use the archaic terms to describe the new measurements. Is it a quart or a litre? who the fsck cares while your swigging it down? A 14 ml wrench is just a 9/16th by any other name.
thanx,
bill
."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
New There ain't no such thing...
Box:
A 14 ml wrench is just a 9/16th by any other name.
...as a fourteen.milliliter wrench! :-)

And no, it isn't -- one of them is smaller, and won't fit on screws of the other's dimension; used the other way, the larger wrench will often slip and ruin the shape of the bolt-head. (No, I can't recall which is bigger and which smaller.)

Using a 13-mm wrench on half-inch (=12.7 mm) bolt-heads works better; there's less slippage there. (So I'd guess the difference between 9/16" and 14 mm is more than 0.3 mm.)


"I use volume measures all the time. (At least in Swedish, we even have archaic-sounding nicknames like "teaspoon" for a 5-milliliter measure.)"
proof that the metric system is so awful that you use the archaic terms to describe the new measurements.
No, just that we use old-fashioned shorthand to *refer* to our _superior_[*] measures.


Is it a quart or a litre? who the fsck cares while your swigging it down?
I do -- and according to Andrew, the liter is obviously superior! ;^)




[*]: Because they're _standardized_ -- how big is *your* "teaspoon"? Is that the same size as Andrew's? Or as the guy's who wrote the cookbook...?
   Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
New Hey box . . .
. . what proof is a 14 ml wrench? Screwdrives I know, but wrench?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Simple the kids have disappeared all the 9/16 wrenches
So when I work on my ride the 14mm works just fine. I just dont tell them its the same.
thanx,
bill
."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
New Hint: what else does "proof" mean
===
Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
New note the mm in the post as opposed to ml
."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
New Missed your "Subject:" before - thread, of course, thanks!
New It's all in the visualization.
An acre foot is used because it is much easier to visualise than a heap of cubic meters. Other traditional measures are also easier to conceptualize than metric and are scaled to human experience.

And yes, the teaspoon measure is highly standardized, so Box's is the same size as mine (the teaspoon, that is).

Metric is easier for engineering calculations, true, but not everything in life is engineering - in fact, believe it or not, most of it isn't (or aren't you getting out much?).

They that have known only metric fear what they do not understand, and seek to impose upon us "the one true measure" - and they get royally ticked off when we chose to use theirs and ours. That alone is enough to make it all worthwhile.

[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New And other senses
Being from Texas, it makes a lot more sense to use a temperature scale where 100 is the benchmark for determining whether it's hot. It just doesn't sound right to say that it's 38 degrees outside in the middle of summer.

On the lower end of things, zero degrees C does make more sense for determining when it's cold - Freezing. But since we hate the cold in these parts, the 32 degrees makes us feel a tad warmer than we should.
New So BOx's and yours are equally tiny!
Your teaspoons, that is! :-)

Honestly, *I* don't have any problems visualizing in metric units... (Though I might also think in hectare-meters for that dam; one of those is ten thousand cubic meters [=ten million liters] and, depending on the size of the acre, probably about six acre-feet.)

So, not everything in life is engineering... Although you're right, I actually *don't* get out all that much nowadays -- hadn't you heard, I've got a girlfriend? :-)
   Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
New I wish the french had gone duo-decimal
Base 12. They discussed it, then didn't.

A "metric" system with factors of 12 between different measures would be far more useful than metric in daily life. Metric has every advantage until you need a third of something. What Imperial gets right is that a third of something usually is easy to state in the system.

Cheers,
Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything."
--Richard Feynman
New ROFL!! Excellent explaination of Bull!
New One mile = 1,000 feet
...well, paces. Roman. It was a thousand paces, or "mille" paces -- as metric a unit as you could want. Roman pace being about 5 Roman feet, this works out to 1,760 yards, or 5,280 feet. Or 70 laps in a standard US 25 yard swiming pool. All of which I know without having to look it up. NM's one minute of arc at the equator (or along a great circle), 6,080 ft. The minutes and arcs I knew, the feet I had to check on. Incidentally, do you know the derivation of the meter?

Granted, remembering that there are 43,560 square feet (4,840 square yards) to an acre is a bit of knowledge I'm called on to use less frequently.

A furlong, that's easy: 220 yards, or 1/8 mile. And your mile a minute is 161,280 furlongs per fortnight, which is of course, the proper answer to report to the cop who pulls you over next time.

Perch is really a trick question -- the unit may refer to length (5.5 yards), area (a square rod, 1/160th acre, or 272 sqft), or a mass 16.5 feet long, 1 foot high, and 1.5 feet wide. Even I don't routinely use this as a general rule. If we had a perch of water, it would be 7,709 pounds, roughly. Assuming stone at thrice the density of water, the mason's perch is about 23,125 pounds, 1,650 stone, or 11.5 tons.

Or 1/10 of an IWE mille-lard-ass.

That's my answer, me lard.
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New Not quite.
Karsten writes:
One mile = 1,000 feet ...well, paces. Roman. It was a thousand paces, or "mille" paces -- as metric a unit as you could want.
Uh, if it isn't based on the meter, how can it be "metric"?

decimal != metric


Incidentally, do you know the derivation of the meter?
Bah! Too elementary.

BTW, did you know that the distance from the equator to (either of) the poles is somewhere just over ten thousand kilometers -- or is that, just under?

Hey, they did the best they could, with the technology of the time.
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."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
     Minnow damage - (Silverlock) - (39)
         Ouchhh! How can you be typing? -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             Half as fast as normal - (Silverlock)
         So, sometimes the minnow wins . . . -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
         Nnngh ow ow ow ow STFU plzkthx - (pwhysall)
         Unfair, the fish had help! -NT - (ben_tilly)
         pair of needle nose pliars, a needle - (boxley)
         Four CENTImeters... or milli-? (4 cm ~ 1.8") -NT - (CRConrad) - (32)
             Sheesh, I make that mistake all the time - (Silverlock) - (31)
                 Yup, it's that metric system again. - (Andrew Grygus) - (30)
                     easy way to remember willies are measured in centimenters - (boxley)
                     \ufffd, Shil, six-pence, ha-penny, Guinea - much more fun too.. - (Ashton)
                     Not forgetting - (pwhysall) - (27)
                         + grains, drams, minims, Av/Troy ounces, but.. PINT= OK! :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                         My favorite question... - (ben_tilly)
                         Bull** - (Andrew Grygus) - (20)
                             Bravisssimo! - (Ashton) - (6)
                                 Re: Bravisssimo! - (admin) - (5)
                                     Then please.. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         *smile* - (admin)
                                     See if you can convince him that duo-decimal is better :-) - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                         I'm not going there... -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                             Aw, can't I corrupt him a little? -NT - (ben_tilly)
                             Great steaming piles of it from you, Andrew. - (CRConrad) - (10)
                                 Thread is the word you are looking for and also - (boxley) - (6)
                                     There ain't no such thing... - (CRConrad)
                                     Hey box . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                         Simple the kids have disappeared all the 9/16 wrenches - (boxley) - (2)
                                             Hint: what else does "proof" mean -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                 note the mm in the post as opposed to ml -NT - (boxley)
                                     Missed your "Subject:" before - thread, of course, thanks! -NT - (CRConrad)
                                 It's all in the visualization. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                     And other senses - (ChrisR)
                                     So BOx's and yours are equally tiny! - (CRConrad)
                             I wish the french had gone duo-decimal - (ben_tilly)
                             ROFL!! Excellent explaination of Bull! -NT - (n3jja)
                         One mile = 1,000 feet - (kmself) - (1)
                             Not quite. - (CRConrad)
                         yabbut the alternative is french -NT - (boxley)
                         Whats the horsepower of that motor? -NT - (boxley)

Of course I may like it partly because I agree with it...
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