Re: "would choose NOT to run Debian"

Post #44,630 by pwhysall 7/6/02 1:04:05 PM Reply	Re: "would choose NOT to run Debian" It'll come back to bite ye. It's widely known and accepted that if Debian has a weak area, it's installation. Once you get the thing on (and it's really not all that bad), Debian basically whips Red Hat in every area. Easier to use. Easier to install software. More software. Better configuration. You can upgrade without nightmares. The kicker: [link\|http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/\|Debian Policy]. As far as I'm aware, no such document exists for any other Linux distribution. Policy is the special sauce that means Debian is better. Not just subjectively better, but objectively better - there's a metric for measuring the "goodness" of a package, and that's to what extent it complies with policy. Red Hat might have the slick installer, but that's no basis to choose a distribution. You're going to spend a day or so with the install. You're going to spend at least months and possibly years with the consequences of that. Yes, there are reasons not everyone runs Debian. They're almost invariably wrong :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #44,704 by static 7/8/02 12:14:59 AM Reply	Might I remind you: something called "First Impressions". e.g. Debian's. Truly Wierd installation is also one reason I didn't persist with Debian. What's that you say? Keeps out the riff-raff? I think it's keeping out more than you might think... Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #44,711 by kmself 7/8/02 12:56:44 AM Reply	Your loss Points: Ultimately, your problem, not mine. We'll appreciate your holding your criticisms to the install, then. It Really, Truly, Gets Much Better ™. Adventure puts hair on your chest. Peter installs Debian, starts shilling for it. The woman he loves accepts his proposal for marriage. Coincidence? I think not. -- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever. Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]
Post #44,717 by static 7/8/02 1:27:31 AM Reply	Counter. 1. Primarily, but IMHO Debian is not doing itself any favours by lagging behind with the Installation Routine. 2. I largely do. 3. I'll have to believe you and Peter, though my experiences after two installs were not stellar. (I suspect this may be more telling than mere failed installs, but they are issues we've been over before.) 4. uh... 5. ... now we're over on another plane. :-) Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."

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