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New My favorite uncle was a Life Member of the NRA.
Had lots of handguns, rifles, shotguns. And a 3 pounder cannon.

Reloaded his own shotgun shells (I helped him once).

He almost killed himself (luckily the bullet just grazed his index finger) once when he was cleaning his rifles and a rifle that he was sure was unloaded actually wasn't...

:-/

One summer during college I visited him and he took me and a friend out to shoot his handguns at a friend of his farm in the country where they had a backstop made of railroad ties.

44 Magnum, 45, and a few other things.

We had hearing protection, so I don't know how loud they were.

Yeah, they're big, heavy, well-balanced machines. And one can see the appeal.

But, man, are they dangerous!

We were maybe 50 feet from the backstop? I shot the 44 and the slug came flying back at us and landed at my feet. It was all mangled and spread out into a jagged sculpture maybe 2" wide. We backed up another 10-20 feet.

I shot another gun and once nothing happened. Pulled the trigger again, nothing. My uncle very carefully took the gun from my hand and unloaded it and we buried the dud shell. I don't know how common delayed explosions are and am very glad we didn't find out.

And we heard later that his friends' parents were upset because our shots were flying over the backstop and coming close to their house (apparently because the gun sights weren't "dialed in")....

And that was just an hour or so in the country with a guy who knew what he was doing!

Be careful, please. :-)

Best wishes,
Scott.
New I once tried to ricoshet . . .
. . a bullet from my FN49 off a flat rock (out in the middle nowhere, of course). Even at a very shallow angle the velocity was so high the bullet and a bit of rock just turned to powder. 7mm full load machine gun rounds.
New 15 metres from the target is waaaaaay too close for large calibre pistols
I can hear the wailing and gnashing of my old gun clubs rangemaster’s teeth from here!
New Yes, but ...
If I'm training for home defense, there's no place in my house where I'd be aiming at something more than 5-6 meters away.
--

Drew
New Large calibre handguns are also no good for that, iirc
Too much penetration - you’ve a decent chance of missing your evildoer and accidentally shooting your neighbour instead.

9mm, or a shotgun, are better choices - each with their pros/cons re: power, handling, accuracy, etc.
New Shotgun is the only thing for amateurs
Like me.

And if you're wimpy about it, you can put rock salt in them.
New That's an ammo problem
You want the stuff they give air marshals. Breaks up on impact, makes a right mess of people, but won't go through the airframe. (Theoretically.) Also probably super expensive. I mean, it was too expensive to practice with back when regular rounds were cheap.
--

Drew
     Talk about “hardware” - (rcareaga) - (16)
         Without touching on the politics of it at all ... - (drook) - (3)
             Concur: Keep, but make sure it's OK. (Also, spello on WeimAr?) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                 Typo, not spell-o. Fixed, thx. -NT - (rcareaga)
             Correction. The most dangerous knife in the kitchen is... - (pwhysall)
         Get some training and range time. - (pwhysall)
         You sure you want to keep it? - (crazy) - (10)
             Sure? By no means. - (rcareaga) - (9)
                 “Night courage” - (rcareaga) - (1)
                     Lots of superlatives in that last paragraph. -NT - (malraux)
                 My favorite uncle was a Life Member of the NRA. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                     I once tried to ricoshet . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     15 metres from the target is waaaaaay too close for large calibre pistols - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         Yes, but ... - (drook) - (3)
                             Large calibre handguns are also no good for that, iirc - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 Shotgun is the only thing for amateurs - (crazy)
                                 That's an ammo problem - (drook)

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