Post #445,169
12/16/24 7:19:48 AM
12/16/24 7:19:48 AM
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Toast points
I was watching a random YouTube video where some guy was making breakfast. He's a French chef. Or at least he's a chef who studied French cooking for years. He started with what they call toast points. As far as I'm concerned they are shrimp toast without the shrimp. I had to try.
Bread in a pan. Simple enough. Mind-bogglingly good. Take real virgin olive oil. Accept that it will break down a little bit, you are not frying it high enough or hot enough to really destroy it. Don't reuse it.
On low heat, far lower than it would take to actually cook garlic, get a couple of cloves of garlic in there. I prefer spoonfuls out of a jar of pre-cut in liquid. Anybody who chops garlic is insane. Or cares about the fact that who knows what evilness went into the manufacturing of my Jarred garlic.
Let it slowly simmer to get the juice out into the oil to infuse it and crush it and then get all the bits of garlic out you can. Every last bit. You do not want any bitter burnt garlic in the next step. If you have to run it through a strainer do that.
Do the same for any additional herbs you want in there. This in an infusion. Play with it. But keep in mind they have to survive a 300 degree plus fry step. Most herbs would have burnt off by that point and just left a bad bitter edge. If you really want them toss them on at the final moments before serving.
Keep that garlic. You will spread it on the top of the toast at the end. It is sweet. These are called toast points in France. They cut them into triangles. Shape does not matter, I'm just trying to optimize using a tiny bit of oil and testing out various temperatures and cook times.
Okay, with a tiny bit of oil in that pan, remember the bread will suck it up, but you want to leave enough after the suck-up for the flip to have some more, or reserve some and do additional squirt before the bread is put down after the flip, adjust the temperature for your particular bread.
All different. Exactness matters. You may want to play with a quick brush of the oil onto the bread rather than drop it into a frying pan to leave the center uncooked, or at least a different type of crunchy chewy.
For my plain white bread I ended up with 335° for 50 seconds a side. I used a series of small squares to toss in to test at different times and temperatures. When time/temperature was too low then the bread was too mushy. Push too high in the other direction and it will burn.
Utter heaven for paying attention for 2 minutes.
The next step is to start playing with other flavors. Obviously shrimp toast is on the menu. But what else would go in?
I will be finding out.
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Post #445,171
12/16/24 7:45:01 AM
12/16/24 7:45:01 AM
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Get some knife skills
It’s less time to crush and chop a clove of garlic than it is to fart about finding the jar, finding a spoon, opening the jar, not getting a spoonful of just oil, figuring out how much of this slop is “a clove”, having to add more because it’s got no fucking flavour because all the flavoursome oils in the garlic have long since fucked off, then putting it all away.
But only if you’ve got some knife skills. So get some knife skills. The only good garlic in a jar is whole cloves, pickled and then preserved in chilli oil. Holy shit, it’s good.
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Post #445,177
12/16/24 10:03:59 AM
12/16/24 10:03:59 AM
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Not for me
It took you far longer to type everything, even if you were dictating, then it would for me to have accomplished the tasks and be done.
Facing counter, spoon in drawer in front of me. Spin 180 and grab. Obviously available jar. Spin back and slop in pan. You really think any difference in the amount will make a difference in the final result for me creating this silly little infusion? Or in any usage of garlic that I couldn't eyeball a clove versus a pile in a spoon?
There is no difference in the end result and it is far better than I could have done in 10 times the amount of time. And then I'd have to wash additional stuff. Like a garlicky cutting board. Or I'd have to wash a garlic press which is insane.
You're just being silly.
As far as get some knife skills, I have some. Not a lot. But they serve me. And I have sharp knives when I want them. I have the sharpeners. I actually enjoy the mind-numbing moments of slowly pushing those blades across. But only for a while. Then I love whipping those knives through paper. Then sharpening and putting the final edge again and putting it away. On the magnetic knife holder right in front of me where I reach no distance to use.
My whole world is constructed to minimize movement and have easy access to everything I want wherever I am. I am finally getting there.
Yes, I am lazy. The good kind of lazy. The one that optimizes things.
But I have an ulterior motive as well. My hands hurt. I whine all the time, or at least it seems to me, about my various joints dislocating. Those are major pain points. Minor pain points are more constant, especially in cold weather, so I spent a lot of time thinking about focused heat on my hands. And minimizing palm, forearm, wrist, and finger movements. I can get a searing pain when pushing a knife down. No warning so no anticipatory mitigation so I can just be chopping along happily and then bang. Cut that shit out. Same thing when lifting a plate or a glass of water if I can't get the bottom section where my fingers wrap around and support it. I have to do it two hands because at any given moment on either hand one or more fingers can just have a searing pain and I lose control of it and drop it. Or my wrist. Which finger depends on where the pain started since sometimes it's inflammation around a nerve that compresses. It could start at my elbow or my wrist or my knuckle. Ends in my finger tip. And then it's a live wire along the path. Other times it's torn cartilage and tendons because they've dislocated in the past and now hurt because they're filled with scar tissue and the inflammation goes up and down. I'm okay 90% of the time but my hands are not trustworthy and cause me pain. I take the little wheels off lighters because my thumb can't press down the child proof lock. Sometimes it feels like it's hard to press a button on a remote control. Okay, whining over.
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Post #445,179
12/16/24 11:01:23 AM
12/16/24 11:01:23 AM
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Shrug, you do you
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Post #445,180
12/16/24 12:12:34 PM
12/16/24 12:12:34 PM
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I will
Try to keep in mind you are at the top 5% of the physical specimens in the world and I'm on the bottom five.
You can reach high and far. You probably enjoy it. Everything you can reach, can pack that down into a much smaller space and try to imagine me reaching for it. Poorly.
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Post #445,184
12/16/24 12:54:39 PM
12/16/24 12:54:39 PM
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For cooking . . .
. . knife skills, patience, and avoiding distraction are the three most important qualities.
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Post #445,185
12/16/24 1:15:02 PM
12/16/24 1:15:02 PM
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Unless you replace "avoiding distraction" with techniques that don't require it
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Post #445,189
12/16/24 7:35:34 PM
12/16/24 7:35:34 PM
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Yep
Every time I look at a recipe I review the knife work and if I feel threatened I won't do it.
I'm sure you guys are very good and I am mediocre in comparison. But even past that point, I'm just lazy and scared. As far as I'm concerned, a project isn't over until I've hurt myself. That could be twisting a wrench and slamming my hand. Or that could be chopping a bit of my finger when cutting whatever. It's just part of life. So I'll avoid the knife when I can. I whined about the hands but of course there are times I just push past whatever and get stuff done. I don't want to touch raw meat so I glove up and I am careful with the cutting boards and it's all such a pain in the ass. Most of the time it's not worth it for me.
If I can do factory production like large sous-vide batches I will, because that's a good payback on investment. And I only do that once every 3 or 4 months. I just ate some 3-year-old lamb ribs. It was before I learned to label well and I thought it was a steak. Random 3-year-old bag from the deep freeze in the back. They were great. They worked very well frozen in the George Foreman grill and the bag juice made a great sauce.
The key issue is I crossed over into laziness outweighing hunger. So fancy prep of anything has to give me some phenomenal return on investment for me to get off my ass and start working on it.
It's going to be something emotional. It's going to be something that I do to make M happy on the occasion that she is hungry. It's going to be something that I can create and eat over the course of days but have it in two bite snacks like the eggs.
Other than that, I'll wait for M to cook and feed me. She's really good at it. And she does it even when she's not hungry. She's got this thing about being a dutiful wife. She sees me sit there and feels the need to feed me.
Works for me.
Today I ran up and down my inside steps. Maybe 50 times. I played House Tetris. There is one guest left in 2 weeks and we are closed for the winter. That means the downstairs is mine.
When I put that Airbnb together I played solidify Tetris. I gathered everything in the house and either I packed tight up in 700 square feet which is my top floor kitchen, living room and bedroom or I put it outside in a shed somewhere. And those sheds were packed.
But downstairs was perfect. Freshly constructed kitchen and bedroom with the Murphy bed and just the slightest hint of storage. Almost nothing. Let people come in and feel it's theirs for a few days and then move on.
So that means I have almost no storage to use right now anyway. But I'm going to use every spot I can. Like I have a phonograph, really, a record player in a box, that's still in the box, that fits perfectly above the fridge within a quarter inch of the cabinet that hangs above that. That box does not fit anywhere else on the entire floor. Score.
Pots and pans that I haven't used in a long time? They go to the downstairs kitchen. Now I have two of them to fill with gadgets.
Every bag and box and wire on my floor? No longer, coiled and zip tied tight and hung on the correct wire racks. I can finally see my floor. The bags hang nicely on hooks. I have heavy duty canvas bags with padded handles that are now hanging on the wire shelves that I now can organize irregular shaped things in. The knapsacks that we all need access to? Hanging on that wire shelf rack as well. The jackets that we toss. Hanging on the wire rack as well. I love baker's racks combined with a bunch of s-hooks on the sides.
I'm not moving anything that M has stored in this environment out of sight. It's all laid out so she can pick and choose and then I'll carry the rest down.
I've rewired the projector. It used to hang straight down in the middle of the room. It was horrible. But it was low on the list. Now it's nice and tight up the ceiling and then down the wall and I've got the channels to put over it. Right now it's white wire on a white ceiling so I'm okay with it.
That means I can move my massage chair at any location under the projector which is where I want it. That thing is 300 lb plus but it's on a wooden floor and I can shove it. That means I can move the side table on wheels easily. It used to be clamped in place with the wires. It was bad. It was at the wrong angle for the chair but it was correct for clamped wires.
I have been running around like crazy all day doing this, unpacking the packed stuff in the tight living room closet and shelves that we could never get to anyway unless I juggled and then repacking it, but in a far more organized fashion in the limited space downstairs.
You know when you leave a house and the final moments, you have to do a gather and it's kind of like filling a junk drawer. You don't want to throw that stuff out, but you really don't have any current use for it. But you know it's worth moving. At least you think so. I found three those boxes from three moves ago that it's time to rip apart and use what we can and throw away what we don't. Time to set up a real filing cabinet.
No more juggling.
This will be the final summer if I rent at all. So I got short timers syndrome. You want to show up and enjoy the place, you should be okay with the various cabinets packed. It won't be ugly on the outside, but it won't be the level of hotel room feel that it is now.
Prep work? Too lazy. Housework with a payback that I've been waiting for, for years? Yup.
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Post #445,173
12/16/24 9:29:56 AM
12/16/24 9:29:56 AM
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Huh, I've just independently developed nearly this process
I was doing grilled cheese and realized I could put a little garlic on and do garlic bread in the pan. Quicker than putting it under the broiler and easier to control. I'll have to try it with olive oil.
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Post #445,175
12/16/24 9:40:46 AM
12/16/24 9:40:46 AM
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I've been doing slow pan fry grilled cheese forever
It drives M insane. She can whip up some grilled cheese in 2 minutes. It takes me about a half an hour. But when it's done, each piece of bread has been slowly slowly crisped in butter for 10 minutes before I even start the cheese portion.
One of the best things about this Breville induction cooker is the temperature control. It is so perfectly exact that I can get the temperature of butter 2° under smoke. Which makes it perfect for frying.
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Post #445,176
12/16/24 9:47:08 AM
12/16/24 9:47:08 AM
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I'm between those extremes
I get the pan hot enough that I can't walk away, because it goes from soggy to burnt really fast. The variables are how thick is the bread I'm using, and whether the cheese is still cold from the fridge when I started.
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Post #445,178
12/16/24 10:08:07 AM
12/16/24 8:12:20 PM
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I simply can't do that
Cooking is an art form to you. It requires skill and care and loving attention. Most importantly, it requires your stove. Nobody else's. And it requires years of you adjusting how you behave for the various things you cook and the temperatures you have to get them to. It requires you to be able to eyeball and smell and taste at various points. All of these are learned over years and many failures.
I don't accept the failure. I accept the possibility. I try to work with cheap ingredients to start off with when I'm learning a particular skill. But for the most part, there should be no skills involved.
It is science and technology to me. If I can't create a formula that anyone can follow given the right tools, the first time, then I don't want it.
How hot is a medium flame? Game over.
I want to add on the temperature/flame versus electric electric burner versus default induction without temperature control.
Every single one of them requires a thermometer probe hanging on the pot and hitting a point. And that point beeps and tells you to get off your lazy ass and do something. Each one has different ability to hit a point at a different speed and maintain it. None of them will actually maintain any temperature. They'll maintain a level of electricity or flame. You throw something in there, temperature changes. Potatoes go in, temperature changes. Again and again. There are adjustments to be made while cooking that are specific to your stove and none of them would work for me.
I bet they don't work for most people but they don't know any better. They just try again and again. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't and it's never consistent.
And they'd never be able to walk next door and do it there. Most people would not be able to walk next door and do 99% of what you would do on a stove by default on your next door neighbor's stove. Even if it was the same supposed type.
I carry this burner with me. Besides setting the pan to fry as hot as possible for the oil type, and not burning the herbs during the initial pass of pulling the oils, I can simultaneously have the probe inside the meat to turn it off when it hits temperature.
You'll approximate. You'll find something that works generically. You will pay close care and attention. But you won't be sure. You'll get it close enough.
Drook: Would you do your rib roast recipe on someone else's oven if you were paying for the meat? I love that recipe. I definitely screwed it up. I don't remember how. I got it right the first time so I was hooked. But then I think it was a different kitchen because I moved a lot. I did something differently I'm sure. That was an expensive failure.
In the case of oils, you're supposed to heat max to a smoke point? A bit less? Unacceptable. Dial it in. Every time you throw something in there that's a different temperature. The heat will turn on and get it there as fast as possible. But it won't overshoot.
Every oil has its own temperature.
It's perfect every time. No reading a thermometer, never adjusting, always being sure. As opposed to when I use any other method I am ending up with something undercooked and soggy or overcooked and burnt.
I'm the same way with pressure cooking. Futzing around on the stove with pressure cookers was very painful. I have a very large metal electric sterilizer that pressure cooks as well, but does it after you've just dialed in the pressure rather than screw around with that bouncing top or have to go watch the pressure dial and adjust the stove because it varies.
Edited by crazy
Dec. 16, 2024, 10:13:30 AM EST
Edited by crazy
Dec. 16, 2024, 08:12:20 PM EST
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