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New Thanks. No noise at all.
I'm a bit confused about worrying about device count. I can't picture more than 10 devices in my household and three or four down at the shed. Plus my phone as I wander back and forth.

But I have no problem spending a few bucks more for something recommended. I will do further research.

I already anticipated running a cable the whole distance and throwing an access point out there. That's if the wireless mesh does not work which is a crapshoot.

I will not be buying any cable that requires my own termination. I'm not buying the kit and I'm not putting it on and I'm not taking the chance of being the one who screws it up. Those days are long over. Cables are cheap. 30 to 40 bucks looks like it should take care of what I need.

Cat5 versus 6 is a good discussion.

I will not be using power over ethernet. I have plenty of power throughout the property and the devices I use are charged via USB anyway.

I might set up a projector back there and an entertainment center but the bottom line is everything is constrained via gigabit from the internet. And that gigabit is easily 20 times faster than I need for the vast majority of what I use.

I have no high-speed servers in the house that need to pump data to the back or vice versa. So cat5 should be more than enough and will happily plug into one of my multiple ports.

If I go crazy and need to pump real data, I can actually put a couple of fiber connectors in my local house switch. And then throw a fiber line. I can go big later if I need to.

Further research shows I have two eero boxes that were part of my home internet install. They already have some type of mesh and it is incompatible with the box you posted above. Now I know I have to look further and double-check or I will get an additional eero which I'm not that fond of.

Or I throw the wire and put any generic access point out there since it's not meshing with the current Network.

That's why I ask, and that's why I do further research.
Expand Edited by crazy Nov. 11, 2024, 09:57:51 PM EST
New Go with the last bit. It is the simplest by far.
And the most reliable.

You said no PoE, but that does have the advantage that there is no wall wart waiting to get unplugged/kicked/run over/...

[We have a WiFi extension about 500' from the house. The setup consists of a PoE switch in the house, Cat5e cable in underground conduit, a PoE repeater midway and a WiFi 6 PoE AP at the end. The cabin at the end is on the grid but the service enters right by the front door, hence going with PoE to avoid the wall wart problem.]
New And as I review the PoE stuff
I see that it opens up my universe of possibilities for choices. But in my case I would want the PoE coming from the distribution switch at the shed rather than from the initial point of where this long cable is running.

At that point I wouldn't bother with Wi-Fi and have a couple of cameras running directly cabled in.

Those little power injection/ repeater devices are interesting.
New Oh boy, and now I found a possible actual requirement for power over ethernet
It's actually a side benefit that drives the main requirement availability.

I have a grow shed. It's only about 6x6. The interior walls and ceiling of the grow shed is totally covered with multiple layers of metallicized bubble wrap insulation. It does a pretty good job of blocking Wi-Fi signal but not completely. I'm not trying to block the signal, I'm trying to block the cold.

Inside the grow shed I have a whole bunch of steel shelving setup. That in turn is wrapped entirely in additional layers of this insulation. Another layer of Wi-Fi block.

I have several Wi-Fi devices inside this area. I have temperature monitoring and I have a smoke detector and I have a Wi-Fi camera. All of these devices work but they all tell me that the signal is very weak. It's barely scraping out of there. My phone won't work in there. At all.

And then I just added a new camera to try. It's a whiz-bang high quality tilt-in pan yada yada yada. It works great. Until I place it in the shed, and then it no longer transmits.

Okay, what next?

I have to run the cable to the shed, that's fine, that's easy and cheap. But what next? Throw another Wi-Fi point inside the shed? I don't like that. It will introduce subnetting and stuff I don't want to deal with. But how about I pop a Poe camera in there? No Wi-Fi required. It will be part of the network base cabling.

Network plug-in none Poe cameras are really not highly available. But those Poe cameras are. Sounds like it's time for a Poe camera.
New Some phone systems requre Power over Ethernet.
Yes, phones are going Ethernet too.
     Cable and bridge versus router questions? - (crazy) - (18)
         No help, but agreeing on the last point - (drook) - (7)
             Actually it looks like this one should be able to handle it - (crazy) - (6)
                 Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                     Thanks. No noise at all. - (crazy) - (4)
                         Go with the last bit. It is the simplest by far. - (scoenye) - (3)
                             And as I review the PoE stuff - (crazy) - (2)
                                 Oh boy, and now I found a possible actual requirement for power over ethernet - (crazy) - (1)
                                     Some phone systems requre Power over Ethernet. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Cat5e is sufficient for 1Gb/s - (scoenye) - (7)
             Bury? - (crazy) - (6)
                 “a few years" - (pwhysall)
                 Seen any red squirrels in the yard? - (scoenye) - (4)
                     Actually, no - (crazy) - (3)
                         2nd linky is a router? - (scoenye) - (2)
                             Oh yeah, but I don't want that - (crazy) - (1)
                                 Just works, no hassle - (crazy)
         Meanwhile, ... - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Cute. - (crazy)

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