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New It used to be
I have an iPod 3G still kicking around. It is intuitive because there is no need for scrolling on most built-in screens. The more complex configuration screens have a "next" button so you know there is more lurking around the corner.

After that, we went with Android mostly because of the exorbitant cost of the iPhone, until sometime during the Covid episode when my wife caved to granddaughter's never ending requests to "FaceTime". Cue an iPhone 11. What a mess. I'm amazed the thing is still functioning as it usually comes sailing in my direction in the morning to get it to do whatever it is not doing again.

For bonus points, try the iWatch. *clap hands* "It looks like you've taken a hard fall." *fall down flight of stairs* ...crickets...

[ And don't get me going on CarPlay >:-( ]

Edit: I did not realize all things between angle brackets disappear if not/unless HTML, turning the watch bit into nonsense.
Collapse Edited by scoenye Oct. 27, 2024, 08:12:07 PM EDT
It used to be
I have an iPod 3G still kicking around. It is intuitive because there is no need for scrolling on most built-in screens. The more complex configuration screens have a "next" button so you know there is more lurking around the corner.

After that, we went with Android mostly because of the exorbitant cost of the iPhone, until sometime during the Covid episode when my wife caved to granddaughter's never ending requests to "FaceTime". Cue an iPhone 11. What a mess. I'm amazed the thing is still functioning as it usually comes sailing in my direction in the morning to get it to do whatever it is not doing again.

For bonus points, try the iWatch. "It looks like you've taken a hard fall." ...crickets...

[ And don't get me going on CarPlay >:-( ]
Expand Edited by scoenye Oct. 27, 2024, 09:06:27 PM EDT
New It's not just my J's iPhone??
She has an iPhone 13 something or other.

She loves it. She thought she wanted something small (she always loved her StarTac), but she texts all the time and loves the bigger keyboard.

Except when it randomly calls someone.

Or the display randomly suffers from ghost touches.

Or when she walks to one particular spot in the hose and loses her phone signal.

Or ...

I dread the next upgrade. And she always hates new electronic gizmos, so she'll put it off as long as possible. While getting frustrated with all the annoyances.

Cheers,
Scott.
New My peeve
It's in my pocket when I get a call. Trying to pull it out of my pocket I decline the call about half the time.
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Drew
New Oh yeah, compared to what came before
For phones we had we had the Palm Treo. And assorted crap early Android. And a few highly specialized keyboard/screen phones. And the blackberry with the rollerball. I loved my blackberries. Years later when they hadn't sold more than a few phones in the last 5 years, I still demanded a real blackberry with a rollerball when I had to get a separate phone for my BOA job.

And then the magic of those first decent Apple touch screens showed up along with somewhat readable icons. I fell for it. For a couple of years.

In those days the icons were focus grouped. They were agreed upon early on. They were supposedly aesthetically pleasing, at least to Jobs. And there was only a few of them.

A few years later the Android technology caught up and was much cheaper and you could see where they simply got the technology right, even though they weren't as pretty. Pretty could catch up.

For some reason I do not find the Apple structure discoverable. I can scroll around in menus on Android and pretty much read and understand what my next option will be. The Apple icons represent a brick wall of possible accidents that I might screw up on my wife's phone. So I have an initial hesitance to explore and I don't want to break anything.

I have learned to stay away from supporting anybody else's phone. In the case of my wife's Apple device right now, I am perfectly happy to suggest that she stops by the phone store to get any answers she needs if she can't figure it out herself. It's only a few blocks away from where she works anyway.

This has taught her to be self-sufficient. Previously the kids would handle the phone for her. The kids are gone. Actually one just came back but she's not handling the wife's phone. She does things in roundabout, silly ways due to cargo cult programming. But that's okay. She figures it out.
New Our nearest (only) Apple Store is ~40 min away
I suggested it once, but that went over like a lead balloon (of unspecified color ;-)
     Android versus Apple silencing - (crazy) - (15)
         Maybe "Do Not Disturb" will do what you want? - (Another Scott) - (14)
             Maybe not anymore - (scoenye)
             Perfect answer for what I'm looking for - (crazy) - (12)
                 Problem (for me) with Apple is there's frequently not even a tiny icon - (drook) - (10)
                     Which goes to show that the famous "Apple is so intuitive!" slogan is total BS. - (CRConrad) - (9)
                         Good time for this to pop up - (crazy) - (3)
                             The generational change - (drook) - (2)
                                 Good old "kids today" - (crazy) - (1)
                                     Definitely lots of "kids today" - (drook)
                         It used to be - (scoenye) - (4)
                             It's not just my J's iPhone?? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 My peeve - (drook)
                             Oh yeah, compared to what came before - (crazy) - (1)
                                 Our nearest (only) Apple Store is ~40 min away - (scoenye)
                 Okay, follow up - (crazy)

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