Superb temperature control, boils a dutch oven of water in a few minutes. Love it.
Our induction cooktop is the best thing we've done in a while
Superb temperature control, boils a dutch oven of water in a few minutes. Love it. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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Do you have a full cooktop?
If so, who makes it. I have two of these: Breville|PolyScience the Control Freak Temperature Controlled Commercial Induction Cooking System https://a.co/d/6cTbMXf I don't run them at the same time. I can. I put in three extra high wattage lines in my kitchen to plug anything I want because I run all kinds of stuff at the same time. My electrician loves me. No fishing cables. I had him fill out a circuit panel and wrap the lines in conduits around the house on the outside. Slap them into the kitchen and done. No drilling through floors at all and three points in the wall. But I have two of these because I want one in backup for when the first one fails. I won't be able to fix it and it is way too expensive to think about buying again. I bought it at $1,100. They now charge $1,500. It's turned out to be an investment. I had multiple induction hot plates before these. I love them technically but they did not fulfill their promise of power or control or fragileness. Great idea, lousy implementation. And then I got this thing and was blown away. Is there anything else with this level of control and temperature monitoring? I don't care about the probe portion. Just keep the pan at a constant temperature and make me happy that way. Everything else is BS. Hopefully cheaper if it's a plug-in, other than that point me to the cooktop. A couple burners of regular electric infrared whatever and a couple burners of induction. With temperature control. Mine is cracked and broken and we don't use it. I've taped the knobs down so it's not dangerous because we still use the oven portion but not for long. Help me find the replacement. If it includes full oven great. If not, still great. |
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Yes, full cooktop. It's a Frigidaire GCCI3067AB
Had to order this exact model due to the size of the existing cut-out and counter. Well, or spend 3X as much for the Kitchenaid that would also fit. I assume they make a full oven version as well. It has a feature that will keep the temperature at a particular setting, but it's by number (1-9) not degrees. There's also a Powar setting that will make the pan buzz and heat stuff up tout de suite. There are a few things we don't like so much: the controls are fiddly for my wife because her skin doesn't conduct the same way that of other people does, it will beep at you if you set anything on the controls (which are integral to the top) even if it's off, and occasionally it turns off for "no reason".¹ Other than that it's been pretty good to us. ¹ I think she's accidentally brushing the switch or something as it doesn't happen to me. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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Induction stoves don't work at all . . .
. . for traditional woks or kadhais. Flat bottom woks are available and may work OK, but not kadhais. The Indian kadhai has the very best geometry for deep frying of any device in the world - way less splattering all over the stove. I use mine a lot. Of course you can probably use a sheet of steel below traditional clay bean pots, Corning ware, ceramics, borosilicate glass stovetop pots, coffee carafes, etc. probably with seriously reduced efficiency. Tri-ply pots and pans will work because they have corrosion resistant 300 series stainless on the inside, and less corrosion resistant but magnetic stainless (like 400 series) on the outside, but anything all 300 series won't work. Nor will aluminum. |
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Yep, they won't be for everyone.
We don't do any deep frying or use a wok though. FWIW I found some induction kadhais online, obviously no idea how well they work. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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That stuff on the Internet is worthless.
First of all, they're all 10 inches or smaller, useless for any but apartment / condo dwellers who don't do serious cooking. Second, some are non-stick. No sane person does deep fry in a non-stick pan. Third, some are pretty stainless steel. Deep fry in one of those and you'll have to scrub it inside and out with oven cleaner - it'll look terrible. Iron and steel are supposed to develop a black varnish "seasoning", stainless is not. My kadhai is a mere 14 inches, about the smallest size for general use. India Sweets and Spices down in Glendale sells them them up to about 36 inches. Mine is stamped out of a heavy sheet of steel, and I do mean heavy, it weighs 9 pounds. A kadhai looks kind of like a wok, but is not at all the same. The radius is different and the sides are higher and more vertical. It is far better than a wok for deep fry, very much done in India, and for which I use it fairly often. On the other hand, a kadhai is not so good for East / Southeast Asian stir-fry. Recipes from that region often ask to push ingredients up the sides while adding others in the middle. The sides of a kadhai are too steep for that. Now I do use (but never for deep fry) a 13 inch tri-ply stainless wok, which would absolutely horrify any aficionado of Cantonese stir-fry - it's way to slow to respond to changes in temperature. That's OK, you can't really do Cantonese on a home stove anyway - though J Kenji Lopez-Alt has developed a way to fake it using a map-gas blow torch. 13 inches is a little cramped, but suits me most of the time, as I'm usually doing stir-fry for three or fewer people. For more demanding work I have a 14 inch carbon steel wok by Atlas Metal Spinning of San Francisco - the best ever made. Unfortunately they no longer make them. At the same time I bought that wok, 55 years ago, I bought the best Chinese cleaver knife ever made, by Dexter Russel of Massachusetts. I've used it often since then. It is still made, and a recent book by a top expert in Chinese cooking says that just about every skilled Chinese chef in the US uses that knife. They now also make a stainless steel version (at a lower price), but that's strictly for amateurs. I seldom use this knife for Chinese recipes, but consider it, and a soft faced mallet, to be one of my kitchen essentials - see Chinese Cleaver Knife & Mallet. And speaking of stuff in production for an unusual time, in the late sixties I purchased a Fluke 73 multimeter. It was just replaced by a new model about 2 years ago. That has to be some sort of record for electronic equipment. A support person once asked me on the phone if my multimeter was sensitive enough for what he wanted me to do. I said, "I don't know, it's a Fluke". His response was "Bastard!" - he apparently knew what a Fluke multimeter cost. But for something really long lasting - I think it was in the Balkans, many years ago the grave of a lady from Paleolithic hunter-gatherer times, thought to have been a shaman, was partially excavated. It was found to have an amazing amount of grave goods, from an era when grave goods were rare. Recently, excavation was completed - and they found there was a second layer of offerings made at her grave site, 700 YEARS after her death. Now that is fame. |
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Is it though?
We tend to keep our old gods and heroes until there are new ones to replace them. Today that can be overnight. Back then it could take a generation until people at the edges of your migration range even heard of The Great Lady. Maybe that second round of offerings was just how long it took for word of her exploits to reach the other end of the savanna and back. PS about the Fluke. My wife used one at work back when we were dating. I'll have to tell her she was using The Good Stuff.[tm] -- Drew |
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Oh yeah!
The real pros use those yellow flukes. Not me. I had a random signal generator though. That would let me trace a line. But those domain echo devices that could tell you how far away something was. I wanted one of those. I have loved my particular inductive burner for a couple of years, but it took until a few months back that I replaced all my cook gear. I found a particular non-stick that I deemed worthwhile to make an effort to keep non-stick. It's heavy enough by default to press down on the inductive surface. That's important. Most pans off balance by the handle and raise part of the pan slightly which screws up the inductive heat connection. So at this point I've rotated all the pots and pans to only have handy the guaranteed workable ones. And now I have bought many non-stick spatulas. And other cookware. But the bottom line is I want to keep everything metal away from me. Don't let me grab anything by accident. And then destroy the non-stick surface. |
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Greenpan makes excellent nonstick
Refreshable with a melamine sponge too. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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It was like magic
This was 25 years ago she used the Fluke, and she could tap cables in the server room and tell you how far it was to where it terminated at the other end of the building. The stuff she described being able to do amazed me. -- Drew |
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Not likely
The grave had no monument, and only her people would know where it was and what it was. Probably they were having some problems and hoped she could help them. And that 700 years to get across the savanna? No way. Now, with DNA testing, isotope testing, and many other newfangled testing methods, archaeologists have found that travel and trade in prehistoric times was far faster, and over far greater distances, than people had imagined. There's also the matter of women. It is normal for the women found in a grave site to have come from quite a distance. It is quite apparent that young women were strongly discouraged from marrying within their village or tribal unit. Yeah, maybe they knew something about genetics. This would be why ceremonial sites were so important in hunter gatherer times, and later fairs in village times. They were not just for religion, trade, and alliances, but also for matchmaking. This reason for fairs has survived in some folk songs to this day. Due to proximity, some archaeologists think agriculture may have begun around these ceremonial sites to assure adequate beer and/or wine for events. Admittedly, the oldest formal winery we have discovered (it's in Armenia, near a ceremonial and funerary site) is only about 6000 years old, but its scale and arrangement makes it obvious this was not something new at the time. |
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So we haven't sped up as much as I thought
Now I'm wondering, do we cycle through trends and fads as quickly as we do because of our technology, or have we built technology to support our desire to cycle through trends and fads? -- Drew |
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Reddit thread. Indian source.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFood/comments/1bc6quv/induction_kadai/ Haven't clicked the links myself. https://ramsonind.com/product/induction-kadai-stainless-steel/ is some place in India that has them in a huge variety of sizes. Dunno how easy it would be to buy them and ship them to the USA. HTH a little! Cheers, Scott. |
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Love my induction hob
Absolutely transformational. So fast. So precise. So easy to clean. |