Big propane tank, of course.

Post #444,856 by Andrew Grygus 10/5/24 3:03:15 AM 10/5/24 3:03:15 AM Reply	Big propane tank, of course. But I think the new law applies mainly to new construction, at least for now.
Post #444,860 by crazy 10/5/24 3:25:45 PM 10/5/24 3:25:45 PM Reply	Pretty sure it includes maintenance Gas line goes to a group of people. Gas line starts to leak. Somewhere along that line is the leak, possibly multiples. Time start digging. Digging costs huge amounts of money. Digging includes road work. If a group of people at the end of a gas line can have all their gas related appliances replaced with electric appliances for less than the cost of digging then the gas company can offer that deal. If a certain percentage of them votes to take the electric deal, then the rest of the people HAVE to. The gas will simply be shut off. At least that's how I read it.
Post #444,865 by CRConrad 10/6/24 5:29:45 AM 10/6/24 5:29:45 AM Reply	So a block-sized co-op could run a shared central gas tank? Put the tank in the middle, dig gas lines to each household crossing only their residential lots, not streets, and hey presto, Robert is the brother of one of your parents. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #444,867 by crazy 10/6/24 8:32:13 AM 10/6/24 8:32:13 AM Reply	Sounds like a great idea Technically, I would love to see that type of stuff happening. Block off the leaky pipe on entrance to the neighborhood and slap a new connection to a local big tank. Wherever they put it on, wherever it's best to put that big dangerous tank. Refill it from a full tanker once whatever time frame is required. Now I'm trying to figure out where in my neighborhood could find a spot to put it in. Not that would ever happen here. I don't have a gas infrastructure here. I chose to move here knowing that so that's my responsibility if I want that. That will never happen here. But just thought process. If we had gas and it went away where would we put the tank and who would be responsible for it. That's a big explody thing. We're a bunch of old people who have a low tolerance for s*** blowing up in the neighborhood. We run about 60/40 blue/red. Some loudly on both sides. A co-op sounds great on paper but there will be no cooperation here. We actually all own an airport together. We don't agree on anything except for mow the damn grass. We got pilots and non-pilots. Those are two different set of people within a group of people that are already arguing due to political splits right now. Back to the big explody thing. No place to put it. Everyone will have that attitude. Nimby. Not in my backyard. Cornerstone of our American attitude combined with the hardcore. I'm on the West Coast damn it, you don't tell me what to do in my backyard but your backyard better not have a big explody thing in it. Okay, possible in communities that actually cooperate and have a bit of room. Some distance they can dig a pipe from. Put the big explody thing a few thousand yards out. If that includes a tight space with a community next door, you're screwed. If that includes space owned by the federal government surrounding you, you're screwed. Most of the people here would be screwed.
Post #444,868 by crazy 10/6/24 8:42:29 AM 10/6/24 8:42:29 AM Reply	One more thought that drove that My neighbor's tank is about 50 ft from the side of my house where I can see it and I am sure if it explodes it will blow my house over. We've had about a dozen propane explosions in this area in the last 3 years. A few people died across them. Most of them were little tanks. Plain stupidity in their use. But there were a couple of the professionally installed big ones that took out the houses next door. Any tank capable of supplying more than one house would have to be a lot bigger than the one I see next door to me. Start multiplying how big that tank would have to be for whatever houses you want and you can be sure that the surrounding houses that aren't part of it will block it hard. At that point I assume there would have to be serious burying and the cost would be skyrocketing so it wouldn't matter. Another block. You can see my depression on this because I'd like a gas here. Oh well.
Post #444,874 by Another Scott 10/6/24 1:55:53 PM 10/6/24 1:55:53 PM Reply	Yeah, moving away from ancient hydrocarbons has lots of plusses. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/general/40041996 Initial study shows the bus that burst into flames and killed 23 was illegally modified and fitted with several CNG canisters Investigation teams along with officials from relevant agencies were seen collecting evidence at the site of the devastating school bus fire on Wednesday. Meanwhile, people have been placing flowers, milk and snacks as offerings at the accident site in memory of the 20 primary students and three teachers killed in the tragedy. At about 12.20pm on Tuesday, a bus carrying students and teachers from Wat Khao Phraya Sangkaram School in Uthai Thai was engulfed in fire after one of its front tyres blew out. The accident took place on Vibhavadi Road in Pathum Thani. At 9am on Wednesday, both the burned-down bus and a Mercedes sedan that had been hit were removed from the site for further inspection. Initial investigation shows that the bus was equipped with several CNG gas tanks and had been illegally modified. The bus will also be examined by officials from the Department of Energy, the Department of Land Transport and several other agencies. [...] :-( I've been looking at induction and it seems to be the way to go. We're finally getting close to replacing our original 1963 drop-in oven. Push buttons! It's modern!!1 Shortly after we moved in I was thinking we'd do a nice gas range upgrade - I'm very glad we didn't... Cheers, Scott.

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