Speed bumps are a popular form of traffic calming here

Post #444,627 by pwhysall 8/13/24 4:42:51 AM 8/13/24 4:46:41 AM Reply	Speed bumps are a popular form of traffic calming here Along with chicanes, which I prefer. My suburb has a couple of primary schools on it, so there's an area that's restricted to 20mph. I'd be more than happy for this area to be expanded to the whole estate, because 20mph is plenty fast enough for driving along suburban streets where people live, but only if the enforcement method was camera, not more speed bumps. Speed bumps are very appealing to local authorities, though - they're extremely cheap to put in, don't need any additional measures to accommodate cyclists, and are basically maintenance-free once installed - there's no bollards or kerbs for drivers to hit and thus require repair, there's no electrical connection (those white bollards above are illuminated), no road signs required (just a bit of white paint) etc. Speed cameras are expensive, require power and data connections, are targets for vandals, and etc and so on. Edited by pwhysall Aug. 13, 2024, 04:46:41 AM EDT Speed bumps are a popular form of traffic calming here Along with chicanes, which I prefer. My suburb has a couple of primary schools on it, so there's an area that's restricted to 20mph. I'd be more than happy for this area to be expanded to the whole estate, because 20mph is plenty fast enough for driving along suburban streets where people live, but only if the enforcement method was camera, not more speed bumps. Speed bumps are very appealing to local authorities, though - they're extremely cheap to put in, don't need any additional measures to accommodate cyclists, and are basically maintenance-free once installed - there's no bollards or kerbs for drivers to hit and thus require repair, there's no electrical connection (those white bollards above are illuminated), etc. Speed cameras are expensive, require power and data connections, are targets for vandals, and etc and so on. Collapse All History
Post #444,629 by drook 8/13/24 8:14:45 AM 8/13/24 8:14:45 AM Reply	Greatest argument against them here is snow plows -- Drew
Post #444,630 by pwhysall 8/13/24 8:20:10 AM 8/13/24 8:20:10 AM Reply	That's fair tbh
Post #444,636 by CRConrad 8/16/24 9:25:56 AM 8/16/24 9:25:56 AM Reply	Chicanes have the problem that you can still drive far too fast through them. Especially if you're the kind of young moron with a not-yet-cured brain that we all once were. Speed bumps / tables, OTOH, have the problem that the opposite kind of morons slow down to an absolute crawl -- I'm fairly sure I've seen people STOP before creeping over them (in front of me, of course) -- before going over them. I sit there, screaming inside my head, "It's there to limit speed to 30 km/h (or whatever), you fuckwit, not 5, so you CAN go over at 30! DO THAT!" Sigh. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #444,637 by malraux 8/16/24 9:29:27 AM 8/16/24 9:29:27 AM Reply	Depends on the bumper and spoilers If there's too much bumper in front of the hood it will scrape if you go the slightest bit too fast. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #444,639 by CRConrad 8/16/24 9:37:37 AM 8/16/24 9:37:37 AM Reply	The SUV / cross-over craze has infested us, too, so fairly sure that's not it. They're just being stupidly over-cautious Soccer Moms (of both sexes), in their Qashqai, RAV4, or ML-Class. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #444,645 by crazy 8/16/24 11:38:36 AM 8/16/24 11:38:36 AM Reply	I drive the SUV so little I took it off the insurance M works at night. If the Kia Niro is not available to me, I don't want to drive it anyway. I don't want to drive anything anyway at night here. My old man night vision eyes tells me to cut that shit out. I don't want to drive the SUV anyway. Just based on gas mileage and comfort level. Yes, the Yukon is a crazy high-end fun luxury vehicle. The Kia is just as comfortable and far more a pleasure to drive. Keep in mind the Yukon is rather old and does not have cruise control. That's just one piece I was not willing to fix when I bought it. That means the Kia can hug the downgrades by automatically applying the brakes during cruise control (And it does it very well) versus the Yukon that I better pay damn close attention before the brakes either overheat or don't hold close enough during a downgrade. This is a rare thing just based on the fact that I don't have many of those types of downgrades here. But when I do it counts. All of this becomes moot when I engage the four-wheel drive. But I rarely rarely do that. So it sits in my driveway. And I try to cut the grass that pokes out from underneath. And I annoy the neighbors. The high-end deep discharge battery has been deep discharged one time too many and that thing is not keeping a charge. So I bought a flashlight sized capacitor jump device that is capable of jumping it a dozen times before a recharge is necessary. That will get me to town and back and parked a few times and rejumped if I have to. Actually indefinitely as long as I immediately plug it into the 12 volt charger and bring it back to top. So if I ever choose to use it I will walk outside and jump it and let it run for a while. And while it's running I have to call it my insurance agent and activate the insurance. At that moment it's a minor cost for the month.
Post #444,691 by crazy 8/23/24 2:37:39 PM 8/23/24 2:37:39 PM Reply	But I was wrong about the battery I bought one of these about 3 years ago. I had a dying battery in a van I was getting rid of but then I was not replacing the battery. I just kept this thing on it until the guy picked it up. 4 Modes Car Battery Charger, 24V/12V Battery Charger Automotive, 4A/8A LCD Battery Charger Switching Automatically from Fast Charging to Trickle Charging for AGM Lead-Acid Batteries https://a.co/d/3sj9Hts This thing isn't available but there are many successors. The battery in the SUV is at least 5 years old. It is a marine deep discharge battery as opposed to a typical car battery and this lady bought it because she was living out of this vehicle. Then it got to sit in my driveway for the last 3 years, being driven a total of about 100 mi, and nothing in the last year. I had done multiple jumps and then drive around the neighborhood and let it run but that never allowed the battery to start the car the next day. So I let this device run on it for a couple of hours and the vehicle started just fine and then I drove it around the neighborhood and then I let it sit for about 10 minutes. It started fine on its own the next day. Wait 2 days. It started fine on its own again. Wait 3 days. It started fine on its own again. So it seems this battery actually came back to life. Amazed. I just got some gasoline stabilizer. I'm amazed the engine hasn't gummed up with this year old gas. Time to go fill it with a quarter tank and throw the stabilizer in. I have two 5 gallon gasoline jugs that have been sitting there a year that have not had the stabilizer in it. Can I still use that gasoline? Do I have to dispose of it?
Post #444,641 by pwhysall 8/16/24 10:24:04 AM 8/16/24 10:24:04 AM Reply	If you hit a speed table/bump at the posted limit, you will feel it The answer is active enforcement; nothing focuses the mind on slowing the fuck down like three points on your licence and a £200 fine. Especially when you consider that if you're a young driver in the UK, and you accrue 6 points in your first two years, your licence is revoked. Not disqualified, revoked. You have to obtain a new provisional licence, and take your test all over again. And there's at least a three month backlog for that right now, (depending on where you live). I absolutely do not care or mind about following someone who slows right down for a speed bump. I slow down a lot too, because I like not replacing my car's suspension, front splitter, and undertray.
Post #444,646 by crazy 8/16/24 11:44:59 AM 8/16/24 11:49:04 AM Reply	All of this enforcement type talk is nice Hehehe Hahahaha! Giggle giggle. Whew ... This is Seattle! Do you have any idea what that means? I doubt it. Ever since George Floyd the political forces clamped down on the police abuse which then meant a large portion of the abusive police quit. They do prosecute the cops now. That means they are chronically understaffed. Standard response time for a car theft is never. Standard response time for that car being driven into a pot shop storefront that the city will not allow to be blocked with bollards is about 4 hours. That gives them plenty of time to clean it out. Every night. Day after day. Now the pot shop owners are hiring people to live on the property to have instant reaction overnight. This leads to some serious violence. Multiply this by dozens of pot shops. There is seemingly daily shootings. If it bleeds, it leads in the news and we got lots of it. So, tell me again, how many police hours shall we dedicate to catching these speeders? Who for the most part only hurt themselves and some property. F'em Edited by crazy Aug. 16, 2024, 11:49:04 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #444,648 by drook 8/16/24 11:59:47 AM 8/16/24 11:59:47 AM Reply	Traffic cameras -- Drew
Post #444,650 by crazy 8/16/24 12:35:54 PM 8/16/24 12:35:54 PM Reply	They don't care https://www.google.com/search?q=belltown+hellcat+Seattle This guy is one of many. If they did, they'd simply go around ripping them down.
Post #444,652 by drook 8/16/24 5:08:50 PM 8/16/24 5:08:50 PM Reply	He doesn't have to care from the inside of his cell Latest update, he's been arrested. -- Drew
Post #444,653 by crazy 8/16/24 6:34:22 PM 8/16/24 6:34:22 PM Reply	Like I said, one of many He taunted them. He was a moron. They're all morons looking for attention. But he was an especially special moron. So anyway, you've heard the situation here and you understand the constraints that they are working under, at least I think you do. This is just me whining. I don't really care that much. It's 2 hours away from me.

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