Me too (heh): I think I'm quite "progressive" enough, but this is why...

Post #444,553 by CRConrad 7/29/24 2:27:43 AM 7/29/24 2:27:43 AM Reply	Me too (heh): I think I'm quite "progressive" enough, but this is why... ...women have a category of their own in sports in the first place: Anyone who's grown up in a female body can't compete on sheer physiology with anyone who's grown up in a male body. And I don't much believe in "hormone therapy" or "androgen blockers" either: Sure, that might block the male-type muscle growth now -- but these people have a lifetime of male muscle mass building behind them. I just don't think them competing with biologically base-females can ever be fair. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #444,557 by drook 7/29/24 9:20:16 AM 7/29/24 9:20:16 AM Reply	If that's the standard ... I grew up in this body. There no way I was ever going to be competitive at most sports at the Olympic level. (Archery I could, probably.) I don't think there's a simple answer to this. I don't think it's right to exclude all trans athletes from sports, but it's also not right for someone living as a man to declare themselves a woman the day of an event to prove a point, as several have done now. -- Drew
Post #444,562 by Andrew Grygus 7/29/24 6:40:15 PM 7/29/24 6:40:15 PM Reply	Sorry to be politically incorect . . . . . but my position is that women's sports should be open only to cis women. Does that disadvantage trans women? Yes, but a vast number of people are unable to participate in competitive sports due to physical limitations. Actually most people are. And are not cis women being unfairly disadvantaged by trans women in these sports? Of course trans men are disadvantaged at men's sports, but who is complaining about that? I have no problem whatever with people being trans (in either direction), but there should be limitations in physical sports. Of course, trans women could be allowed to compete and their scores disregarded, but of course, they would complain of unfair discrimination, while their intent is to have an unfair advantage.

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