Browsers and mail

Post #44,451 by wharris2 7/4/02 10:48:00 AM Reply	Browsers and mail I avoid browser/mail clients almost on principle (it sounds as if you're actually using the Mozilla mail portion, which I've had lock up on me when I've just tried to send Email.) What I've done in installing various versions of Mozilla is install it into an entirely separate directory (eg, M.98, M.99, M1.0), keeping the old directories around until I'm reasonably sure the newer one is working, then I make sure any old files it might be using are transfered to the new Mozilla directory, then I make a "trial balloon" of deleting the older version by putting it under, say, a "savedmoz" directory tree. It's been working reasonably well. (Actually, I do all this stuff because I almost never trust a program under Windows to be able to upgrade itself in some reasonable sense of order, so I get all paranoid.) Much as I hate to admit it, I am using Microsoft Outsnort Express as my "main" Email program at home, and they've standardized on Outsnort at work (though I know a guy at work running Novel Unixware who has circumvented that by using some client or another.) And I use neither pile of dog vomit news group readers, of course. I'm currently using a program called "Xnews" which, despite its name, has nothing to do with XWindows or X-anything. Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
Post #44,521 by Ashton 7/5/02 6:23:25 AM Reply	Thanks.. helpful detail on deletions.. You've said it best - I too do not trust Any ap to upgrade itself 'well' - or to actually remove all its traces in the abominable Registry. In fact, had I practised what I preach to myself - I'd have gotten that Ghost image made at the first, and after each new (acceptable major addition) - restored to latest image, periodically. But as ~with the great sig of Someone: I have not really tested this theory of beating Windoze by repetitive image reloads: only proven that it sounds Good to me :-\ufffd Anyway I'll use the separate directories in succession, and try sneaking the disposable ones away as you suggest. It's still unclear which of the generated config. files Can be just dropped into a new build - nor is it clear how many of these are needed (won't just regenerate on boot). I'll keep checking the faqs to see if I'm the only one who asks such questions :( {sheesh] - why don't they just tell us where to seed the new build and with what, minimum. A &*%#@ list would do. Cheers, Ashton PS - thus far, M-Mail has given no nasty surprises. The bookmark 'editing' appears brain-dead tho; do a cut & paste via its own commands: might as well call the 'cut', delete. Ugly. Had to get some stuff back from a CD save. Undo no help.
Post #44,533 by wharris2 7/5/02 8:16:43 AM Reply	M-Mail The problem I've had with mail is that in some versions (not sure about 1.0) Mozilla Mail and Mozilla would lock up once I filled the mail window with message text. Best I could ever do was enlarge the mail window bigger before I hit that limit so as to have more window space in which to manoever. Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
Post #44,578 by Ashton 7/5/02 9:14:14 PM Reply	Hmmmm Just today, responding to an e-mail with nested previous exchanges: Twice when I tried to 'delete' some "blue-line extra space" for mere neatness: got a "performed an illegal operation" Moz crash. Twice in exactly the same place in a message "reply"ed to... For completeness first time, it being 'Doze and all - even rebooted! I guess this could be about as clear (as there is) a Moz problem more than 'Doze. A simple BS keystroke: reproducible crash. First mail-related thingie :( {sigh} ..perhaps the golden Years of the web (and All) are: the previous ones. See nothin but Trouble ahead, with the intermixture of 'Security', Trustworthy Computing + Greed-at-an unprecedented new level. It's just tooo Big, too much $momentum$---> for reason to enter into it next.
Post #44,582 by wharris2 7/5/02 10:06:34 PM 7/5/02 10:07:47 PM Reply	Further ruminations You do know, of course, that I think the person(s) responsible for thinking up the Registry (at least in its current form) should all be lined up against a wall and shot multiple times? Sheesh, to place damn near every piece of important system information and having encouraged application developers to put THEIR information into an indecipherable and uneditable (except by a special program, which of course can't edit it if it's been even a little corrupted) () file, is damn-all-to-hell stupidity. () In this case, being a "little corrupted" is sorta like being "a little pregnant". There's very, very, very rarely ever anything "little" about it. Edited by wharris2 July 5, 2002, 10:07:47 PM EDT Expand All History

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