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New CentOS Linux
I have never liked CentOS, because I've never liked RedHat. Software vars adopted it because it was "just like RedHat".

Now CentOS Linux is discontinued and dead. CentOS Project is now completely under the control of RedHat, and it's product is now CentOS Stream, which is actually the beta platform for RedHat Enterprise Linux. No stable version available.

Still using Debian here.
New Yeah, I never liked red hat either
But I wasn't a real admin, I was the guy that threw stuff together but when the real admins showed up they had to standardize on something supportable that they knew. At that point I backed off and stuck with my Ubuntu desktop that I took care of and that was the end of that.

I think the key issue for us was drivers. Somebody had a strong arm the various network card manufacturers for information to write the drivers initially and they were not giving it up without ndas to real companies. Plus we were doing this kind of early on and that meant we had to find a major manufacturer who sold it supported. That meant Dell. And that meant red hat. Even though we had high speed adapters built into the motherboard, we wanted third party latest and greatest. So that meant coordinating the driver bugs between Dell, whoever the network card manufacturer was, and red hat. We had to go that through that with raid cards for the first big SCSI raids. We had to go through that with the first fiber channel cards.

If you want latest and greatest you go with biggest manufacturer, most standardized baseline, and then you start playing and then shoot yourself in the foot and say never latest and greatest again.

And in those days I really cared about speed.

Now I simply want it to work and ordered what I think is a 5 to 7-year-old architecture. It shouldn't matter to me.
New RedHat took the Novel path . . .
. . making things obscure and difficult to understand so you had to take classes. I know the Novel path well, as I was an authorized dealer, which means I went through a couple of those classes. Novel died because few could understand it, so inferior IBM/Microsoft networking took their market, then Microsoft took the same path.
New That was also partly why Banyan disappeared.
New Oh, the day we went from Novell to Microsoft networking
I remember that day. It had nothing to do with my department. My local servers were dedicated. Novell back ends that we contracted out a third party too support. That was my data warehousing subdivision.

But all corporate desktop support became attaching to Microsoft servers and using the Microsoft email. And that sucked. That was crashy. That was horrible. That's how Linux skunk work servers took over underneath. But that took another 10 years.

And when they were caught even if they were running great they had to go find someone to support them so they could take over officially.

I remember the day an article in Network magazine came out. It mentioned a hint of Linux and I took it over to my boss on the network side who had been in charge of the novel to Windows migration and said: See!, it's here, it's in the magazine you demanded to see it in.

He laughed at me and said very cute and went on in his job. After many more Linux servers coming into our server room and this highly technical Network administrator who started out hating Unix, he was first at novel expert and then he was a Windows server and desktop and applications expert, we had many Linux servers come in over the following years...

He's a Hands-On administrator who is really in charge of a bunch of people but he knows his stuff.

There is a major crash. It needs to be researched. We are under major corporate pressure. It is as bad as it gets.

And he walks into the raised floor room and yells: Get me to a Linux console!

Over the preceding 3 years or so he had been learning and had been enjoying all the benefits Linux has to offer in network management. He knew Snoop and ethereal and pretty much everything those tools talked to. He knew how to research network problems.

This was such a proud moment in me. I had spent the proceeding 10 years pushing towards this moment. This was a long-term project. This guy loved Linux at this point.

Trust the Linux box. Get f***** by the Microsoft box. What can we do about this problem?
New Hasn't the talk among the Linuxerati for the last year or two been...
...that everyone is going to, uh, was it Alma Linux or Rocky Linux? I think it was those two; not sure which, if either, is more preferred.
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   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything


Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
New Adjacent: the only reason I read distro reviews on The Register
Is to drink the salty tears of everyone crying about systemd in the comments.

It's a bonus if the distro in question also offers Wayland, for extra salt.
New Here, have an extra-big jug of Dead Sea water from me.
Dunno if I've been spouting off about it there (or here), but I abhor and detest systemd and its creator with a passion.
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   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything


Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
New Nourishment!
New I might have a reason to simply to play
I'm about to get a four core 16 GB box. Intel CPU, and Intel graphical coprocessor that I don't care about but should be fun to play with. Half a terabyte SSD. Faster than anything I've ever worked with, eight times more memory than anything that I've ever worked with. Booting off Ubuntu and then running virtual box and then anything else I might want to including windows and various other Linux or openBSD distributions.

I know it won't run the latest and greatest games but I don't care. I got a nice MAME box with 20K games to explore right now.

It's been shipped, waiting for delivery. It's tiny. It's low low power. It's quiet. And it can drive my projector very easily. It can actually sit on top of my projector. I'll talk to it via Bluetooth keyboard and trackball.

For 200 bucks. Baseline architecture is around 3 years old but that low end explodes quickly and drops in price dramatically as compared to the middle and high. And I could see myself clustering a few of these on a 2.5 GB net.That will cost another 60 bucks for a decent Network switch plus each incremental CPU cluster box. 200 bucks for four cores and 16 GB and half a TB of SSD. And in 6 months either half the price or quadruple the performance for the next little box.
     CentOS Linux - (Andrew Grygus) - (9)
         Yeah, I never liked red hat either - (crazy) - (3)
             RedHat took the Novel path . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 That was also partly why Banyan disappeared. -NT - (static)
                 Oh, the day we went from Novell to Microsoft networking - (crazy)
         Hasn't the talk among the Linuxerati for the last year or two been... - (CRConrad) - (4)
             Adjacent: the only reason I read distro reviews on The Register - (pwhysall) - (3)
                 Here, have an extra-big jug of Dead Sea water from me. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                     Nourishment! -NT - (pwhysall)
                 I might have a reason to simply to play - (crazy)

I think mushrooms are like steroids in this. See how you get bigger and stronger?
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