Whither the Tories?

That’s an interesting question.

There’s essentially no senior talent left. What wasn’t purged by Johnson prior to the 2019 election lost their seats. If Sunak doesn’t resign, the 1922 committee will get him. And then what? The Tories are ordering from a menu essentially consisting of:

James Cleverly: nominative undeterminism in action.
Kemi Badenoch: the right winger’s right-winger. Problem for the Tory membership* (not the parliamentary party) though - she’s a common, black, woman.
Suella Braverman: thick as mince, and the nickname “Cruella” is well-earned. Vicious and reactionary. Again, being a brown woman is problematic for the
Priti Patel: Like Braverman, a brown woman with a mean streak a mile wide

But in some ways selecting the leader from a list of the above and people like the above is the least of their worries. Losing 200 MPs means a huge loss of ground game, and it’s ground game that wins elections, even in the social media age. Reform UK and the Liberal Democrats are nipping at their heels from the right and the left wings respectively. They’re not the automatic party of the right anymore, and that’s a huge problem for them.

Post #444,320 by pwhysall 7/5/24 12:22:38 AM 7/5/24 12:22:39 AM Reply	Whither the Tories? That’s an interesting question. There’s essentially no senior talent left. What wasn’t purged by Johnson prior to the 2019 election lost their seats. If Sunak doesn’t resign, the 1922 committee will get him. And then what? The Tories are ordering from a menu essentially consisting of: James Cleverly: nominative undeterminism in action. Kemi Badenoch: the right winger’s right-winger. Problem for the Tory membership* (not the parliamentary party) though - she’s a common, black, woman. Suella Braverman: thick as mince, and the nickname “Cruella” is well-earned. Vicious and reactionary. Again, being a brown woman is problematic for the Priti Patel: Like Braverman, a brown woman with a mean streak a mile wide But in some ways selecting the leader from a list of the above and people like the above is the least of their worries. Losing 200 MPs means a huge loss of ground game, and it’s ground game that wins elections, even in the social media age. Reform UK and the Liberal Democrats are nipping at their heels from the right and the left wings respectively. They’re not the automatic party of the right anymore, and that’s a huge problem for them. ^{*The party members have a big hand in selecting the leader, and they skew much older, much more racist, and much more misogynist than the parliamentary party (i.e. the MPs in the Commons)}
Post #444,323 by CRConrad 7/5/24 9:33:56 AM 7/5/24 9:33:56 AM Reply	I gather Mordaunt is out of the running because she was un-elected from the Commons? Disregarding the speculations about bestowing a peerage on her to get her in that way -- if that disqualifies the Sword Chick, then surely it disqualifies Cruella as well? -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #444,326 by pwhysall 7/5/24 2:33:21 PM 7/5/24 2:33:21 PM Reply	Yes Braverman won her seat.
Post #444,351 by CRConrad 7/8/24 1:31:34 AM 7/8/24 1:31:34 AM Reply	Oh? Too bad. Must have misundertstood, I got the impression she was out too.
Post #444,324 by rcareaga 7/5/24 11:32:17 AM 7/5/24 11:32:17 AM Reply	“not the automatic party of the right” Is there, do you think, a possibility that the Tories might find themselves at some point sucked into an engorged Reform UK under the execrable Farange, as the old GOP here has been devoured by Trump? curd-ially,
Post #444,327 by pwhysall 7/5/24 2:34:22 PM 7/5/24 2:34:22 PM Reply	It will be messy Hard to call at this stage. Farage has said he wants to destroy the Tories, the Tories have said they want nothing to do with Farage. But they’re all lying liars who lie, so.

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