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New I sure agree with your thoughts.
My wife's and mine best lifetime friends are Jewish. They were not overly religious and we went to 3 of their 4 son's bar mitzvahs and 3 of their sons weddings. Unfortunately, the guy got depressed and committed suicide 10 years ago.

Israel's treatment of invaded West Bank Palestine is wrong.

Religion based conflicts are simply evil.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New There has to be a safety zone
At this point I see a DMZ like North and South Korea. A shitload of land mines but at this point the strip is not wide enough. So they have to get rid of it.

I agree that the Israeli treatment of the Palestinian refugees sucks. What would you have them do? 50 years ago they said kill the all the Jews and the Jews responded. No.

They went from 80,000 people to two and a 1/2 million people in a six mile wide by 125 mile high strip. There is absolutely nothing to do with these people, either then shut them out (which means death and starvation) or bomb the f*** out of them. Let Iran take them as refugees.

This behavior cannot be excused:
https://twitter.com/emilykschrader/status/1710815620911005985
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New As you say, a DMZ won't work.
The only thing that will work is a serious peace.

I'm reminded of the 1973 war. Sadat attacked to get Israel's attention; a few years later there was a peace treaty.

It's a sad and infuriating quality of the world that far too many innocents die to get governments' (and the world's) attention.

:-(

Reuters.com:

Oct 9 (Reuters) - A senior Hamas official said the group is open to discussions over a possible truce with Israel, having "achieved its targets."

Moussa Abu Marzouk told Al Jazeera in a phone interview that Hamas was open to "something of that sort" and "all political dialogues" when asked whether the Islamist group is willing to discuss a possible ceasefire.


Condolences, everyone.

Best wishes,
Scott.
New Agree, their behavior cannot be excused.
And their plan to what Israelis will do to Gaza, where the Hamas are a minority, will get them many joiners.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Minority or not, their culture supports it
https://youtu.be/0GV1nO4uYjo?si=dFV8AA0FEBGe0mzq

Check out the wedding singer at 5:28.

They certainly want us dead. And they want to take Ukrainian women as slave/ brides. F*** them.

The Israeli government just told them to all go to Egypt. Egypt hates them. They don't want them. At least the the people in charge. Jordan hates them too. They sure don't want the people on the west bank flowing into them.

https://www.youtube.com/live/er3YnT5nOHs?si=vNFim7zMqet70mGw

This guy talks about setting up temporary refugee camps. Nothing temporary about it. Once they get them out they will be in horrible tents in the desert. These people are f*****. Do you want them here? Hell no.

And every day we'll see s*** like this until they are wiped off the face of the earth.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/9293542/hamas-slaughters-40-babies-kids-beheaded/


Actually, majority support them:

"A noteworthy survey from the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) unveiled that 58% in Gaza and 42% in the West Bank favor Hamas"

https://coopwb.in/info/how-many-palestinians-support-hamas/
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     Israel and Hamas - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
         I sure agree with your thoughts. - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
             There has to be a safety zone - (crazy) - (3)
                 As you say, a DMZ won't work. - (Another Scott)
                 Agree, their behavior cannot be excused. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     Minority or not, their culture supports it - (crazy)

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