if I understand point 4 correctly

Post #442,713 by boxley 2/12/23 9:52:06 AM 2/12/23 9:52:06 AM Reply	if I understand point 4 correctly Only three of the four were blown. And Heinrich notes that the one that wasn't was one half of NS2, for which no usage contract is in place. so no constrained pricing model? "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #442,714 by CRConrad 2/13/23 5:11:06 AM 2/13/23 5:11:06 AM Reply	Yes, AIUI. And NS1 is under a contract that for all I know reads something like "Germany has an exclusive right to get as much gas as it wants through this pipe". So if Germany says "the amount we want is zero", Putler isn't going to sell any gas through NS1 for however long that contract is. But since Germany doesn't have any such deal on NS2, he could well write a contract to pump gas through NS2 to, say, Serbia or Hungary. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #442,716 by crazy 2/13/23 5:53:47 PM 2/13/23 5:53:47 PM Reply	I won't be alive when the docs are released I seem to recall about 50 years before the archivists can start digging and of course s*** will be hidden. And I don't speak German. But what do you think? Do you think the US did it?
Post #442,718 by CRConrad 2/14/23 7:04:19 AM 2/14/23 7:04:19 AM Reply	Nope. Seems too much risk for too little gain (or none). Why would they?
Post #442,719 by crazy 2/15/23 1:27:25 PM 2/15/23 1:27:25 PM Reply	To be very sure that they are never turned on again Whether or not it's worth the risk of the blowback is a calculation that I can't make. But European and very specifically German dependence on those pipes tilted the world in the last 5 years. One of the few things I ever agreed with Trump on. So while they were being wound down in theory, the reality is someone could make a decision and flip a switch and all the sudden all the influence is back. I could very easily see someone making a decision to make sure that did not happen again.
Post #442,721 by Andrew Grygus 2/15/23 1:33:50 PM 2/15/23 1:33:50 PM Reply	It was probably the Norwegians . . . . . to make sure they could continue to get a good price for their gas.
Post #442,751 by CRConrad 2/23/23 8:07:15 AM 2/23/23 8:07:15 AM Reply	You guys are supposed to be good at blowing shit up. You'd have got all four.

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